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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, famz@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, den@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add readonly field to BdrvDirtyBitmap
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 18:29:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f733fb1b-b625-e809-9740-7c093651c2d8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18c4b1ad-bc30-a598-36b8-612c01b00dee@redhat.com>



On 05/31/2017 09:43 AM, Max Reitz wrote:
> On 2017-05-30 08:50, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>> Thank you for this scenario. Hmm.
>>
>> So, as I need guarantee that image and bitmap are unchanged,
>> bdrv_set_dirty should return error and fail the whole write. Ok?
> 
> I don't know. That would mean that you couldn't commit to an image that
> has a persistent auto-loading bitmap, which doesn't seem very nice to me.
> 
> I'm not quite sure what to do myself. So first I'd definitely want the
> commit operation to succeed. That means we'd have to automatically make
> the bitmap non-readonly once we write to it. The "readonly" flag would
> then be an "unchanged" flag, rather, to signify that the bitmap has not
> been changed since it was loaded, which means that it does not need to
> be written back to the image file.
> 
> Now the issue remains that if you modify a persistent bitmap that is
> stored in an image file that is opened RO when it's closed, you won't be
> able to write the modifications back.
> > So in addition, I guess we'd need to "flush" all persistent bitmaps
> (that is, write all modifications back to the file and set the
> "unchanged" flag (you could also call it "dirty" and then mean the
> opposite) for each bitmap) not only when the image is closed or
> invalidated, but also when it is reopened read-only.
>

Makes sense.

> (block-commit reopens the backing BDS R/W, then writes to them, thus
> modifying the dirty bitmaps, and finally reopens the BDS as read-only;
> before that happens, we will have to flush the modified bitmap data.)
> 

OK, so it would perhaps be enough to toggle the RO flag on/off when
nodes get reopened. When they get reopened RO, we'd need to flush at
that point.

(Right?)

Of course, a changed flag makes this a little moot as it is probably
more flexible; but there is something slightly attractive about the more
rigid form.

(Hmm, for the purposes of periodic flushing, we may want a changed flag
anyway...)

> Max
> 
Thanks for the scenario and the explainer.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-01 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-03 12:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v18 00/25] qcow2: persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/25] specs/qcow2: fix bitmap granularity qemu-specific note Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/25] specs/qcow2: do not use wording 'bitmap header' Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/25] hbitmap: improve dirty iter Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/25] tests: add hbitmap iter test Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/25] block: fix bdrv_dirty_bitmap_granularity signature Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add deserialize_ones func Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/25] qcow2-refcount: rename inc_refcounts() and make it public Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/25] qcow2: add bitmaps extension Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-29 15:34   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add readonly field to BdrvDirtyBitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-19 23:02   ` John Snow
2017-05-25  9:34     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 22:58     ` John Snow
2017-06-01  7:23       ` Sementsov-Ogievskiy Vladimir
2017-05-29 15:49   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-29 18:35   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-30  6:50     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  7:31       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  7:47         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 13:43       ` Max Reitz
2017-05-31 14:29         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 14:44           ` Max Reitz
2017-05-31 15:05             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 15:53               ` Max Reitz
2017-06-01 22:35                 ` John Snow
2017-06-01 22:29         ` John Snow [this message]
2017-06-07 12:40           ` Max Reitz
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/25] qcow2: autoloading dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-29 16:17   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add autoload field to BdrvDirtyBitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/25] block: bdrv_close: release bitmaps after drv->bdrv_close Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-29 16:34   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/25] block: introduce persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-29 16:49   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add bdrv_dirty_bitmap_next() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/25] qcow2: add persistent dirty bitmaps support Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-29 17:07   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/25] block: add bdrv_can_store_new_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/25] qcow2: add .bdrv_can_store_new_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/25] qmp: add persistent flag to block-dirty-bitmap-add Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/25] qmp: add autoload parameter " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/25] qmp: add x-debug-block-dirty-bitmap-sha256 Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/25] iotests: test qcow2 persistent dirty bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-29 17:31   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add bdrv_remove_persistent_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/25] qcow2: add .bdrv_remove_persistent_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/25] qmp: block-dirty-bitmap-remove: remove persistent Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-29 17:38   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-03 12:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/25] block: release persistent bitmaps on inactivate Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-29 17:54   ` Max Reitz
2017-05-30  6:30     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 13:37       ` Max Reitz
2017-05-15  9:51 ` [Qemu-devel] ping Re: [PATCH v18 00/25] qcow2: persistent dirty bitmaps Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-27  9:05   ` [Qemu-devel] ping2 " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-05-30  8:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v19 " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-30  8:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/25] block/dirty-bitmap: add readonly field to BdrvDirtyBitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-05-31 23:48   ` John Snow
2017-06-01  7:30     ` Sementsov-Ogievskiy Vladimir
2017-06-01 18:55       ` John Snow
2017-06-01 23:25       ` John Snow
2017-06-02  8:56         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-06-02  9:01           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-06-02  9:45             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-06-02 18:46               ` John Snow
2017-06-03 17:02                 ` Sementsov-Ogievskiy Vladimir

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