From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: mprivozn@redhat.com, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Export machine type deprecation info through QMP
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 09:38:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f8b5a75c-c7de-a6d8-83d7-c3ba2a0cbaf8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190424181049.GF18406@habkost.net>
On 24/04/2019 20.10, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 09:56:53AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
>> On 23/04/2019 23.22, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
>>> This series adds machine type deprecation information to the
>>> output of the `query-machines` QMP command. With this, libvirt
>>> and management software will be able to show this information to
>>> users and/or suggest changes to VM configuration to avoid
>>> deprecated machine types.
>>>
>>> Eduardo Habkost (3):
>>> qapi: SupportStatusInfo struct
>>> machine: Use SupportStatusInfo for deprecation info
>>> qmp: Add deprecation information to query-machines
>>>
>>> qapi/common.json | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> qapi/misc.json | 5 ++++-
>>> include/hw/boards.h | 7 ++++---
>>> hw/i386/pc_piix.c | 4 +++-
>>> hw/ppc/prep.c | 4 +++-
>>> vl.c | 19 +++++++++++++++----
>>> tests/acceptance/query_machines.py | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> 7 files changed, 80 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>>> create mode 100644 tests/acceptance/query_machines.py
>>
>> Good idea, but some questions come to my mind:
>>
>> - What about devices? IIRC Gerd wrote a patch series last year that does
>> something similar for devices... It would be good to synchronize the
>> work, so that we do not have two completely interfaces between devices
>> and machines here in the end...
>
> My plan is to support this on devices, too. I even had a version
> where documentation of SupportStatusInfo mentioned device types,
> but I decided to leave that out until we actually implement a
> device deprecation info API.
>
>>
>> - Is deprecation as a status enough, or do we want to carry more
>> information here? E.g. is the machine maintained or orphan? Is it
>> stable or rather experimental? And didn't Gerd have also some
>> patches for this last year? ... yes, I think it was this series here:
>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2018-11/msg00039.html
>> ... actually, I like that idea with QemuSupportState... maybe you
>> could base your work on that series instead?
>
> We might want to carry more information eventually. The
> possibility of extending the data later is the main reason I
> called the struct SupportStatusInfo and not just DeprecationInfo.
Ok. I was just a little bit afraid that we define an interface here that
we have to change again completely once we want to carry more
information. For example whether "deprecated" should be a "bool" here,
or rather one of the "enum" entries like in Gerd's series. But after
reading through https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10660677/ again, I
think I agree that "deprecated" is orthogonal to the support state, e.g.
a device could still be supported (in the sense that there is a
maintainer for it), while it has been marked as "deprecated" already.
So no more objections from my side here.
Thomas
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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: mprivozn@redhat.com, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Export machine type deprecation info through QMP
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 09:38:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f8b5a75c-c7de-a6d8-83d7-c3ba2a0cbaf8@redhat.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190425073800.goTsRmBh-VyocrL1jzFW50i_apf2Tj-oAMsGwX2VBVQ@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190424181049.GF18406@habkost.net>
On 24/04/2019 20.10, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 09:56:53AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
>> On 23/04/2019 23.22, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
>>> This series adds machine type deprecation information to the
>>> output of the `query-machines` QMP command. With this, libvirt
>>> and management software will be able to show this information to
>>> users and/or suggest changes to VM configuration to avoid
>>> deprecated machine types.
>>>
>>> Eduardo Habkost (3):
>>> qapi: SupportStatusInfo struct
>>> machine: Use SupportStatusInfo for deprecation info
>>> qmp: Add deprecation information to query-machines
>>>
>>> qapi/common.json | 24 ++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> qapi/misc.json | 5 ++++-
>>> include/hw/boards.h | 7 ++++---
>>> hw/i386/pc_piix.c | 4 +++-
>>> hw/ppc/prep.c | 4 +++-
>>> vl.c | 19 +++++++++++++++----
>>> tests/acceptance/query_machines.py | 27 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> 7 files changed, 80 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
>>> create mode 100644 tests/acceptance/query_machines.py
>>
>> Good idea, but some questions come to my mind:
>>
>> - What about devices? IIRC Gerd wrote a patch series last year that does
>> something similar for devices... It would be good to synchronize the
>> work, so that we do not have two completely interfaces between devices
>> and machines here in the end...
>
> My plan is to support this on devices, too. I even had a version
> where documentation of SupportStatusInfo mentioned device types,
> but I decided to leave that out until we actually implement a
> device deprecation info API.
>
>>
>> - Is deprecation as a status enough, or do we want to carry more
>> information here? E.g. is the machine maintained or orphan? Is it
>> stable or rather experimental? And didn't Gerd have also some
>> patches for this last year? ... yes, I think it was this series here:
>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-ppc/2018-11/msg00039.html
>> ... actually, I like that idea with QemuSupportState... maybe you
>> could base your work on that series instead?
>
> We might want to carry more information eventually. The
> possibility of extending the data later is the main reason I
> called the struct SupportStatusInfo and not just DeprecationInfo.
Ok. I was just a little bit afraid that we define an interface here that
we have to change again completely once we want to carry more
information. For example whether "deprecated" should be a "bool" here,
or rather one of the "enum" entries like in Gerd's series. But after
reading through https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10660677/ again, I
think I agree that "deprecated" is orthogonal to the support state, e.g.
a device could still be supported (in the sense that there is a
maintainer for it), while it has been marked as "deprecated" already.
So no more objections from my side here.
Thomas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-04-25 7:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-23 21:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Export machine type deprecation info through QMP Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] qapi: SupportStatusInfo struct Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 22:23 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-23 22:23 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-24 18:24 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:24 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 8:26 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24 8:26 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24 18:20 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:20 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-30 10:10 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-30 10:10 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-30 12:42 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-30 12:42 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-30 12:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-30 12:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-25 14:20 ` Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2019-04-25 14:20 ` Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2019-04-25 17:42 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-25 17:42 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-30 10:03 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-30 10:03 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-23 21:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] machine: Use SupportStatusInfo for deprecation info Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 22:26 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-23 22:26 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-24 1:37 ` David Gibson
2019-04-24 1:37 ` David Gibson
2019-04-24 8:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24 8:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24 18:29 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:29 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] qmp: Add deprecation information to query-machines Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:22 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 8:28 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24 8:28 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-25 14:54 ` Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2019-04-25 14:54 ` Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2019-04-25 17:43 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-25 17:43 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-23 21:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Export machine type deprecation info through QMP no-reply
2019-04-23 21:28 ` no-reply
2019-04-24 7:56 ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-24 7:56 ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-24 8:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24 8:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24 18:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:14 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:10 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-24 18:10 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-04-25 7:38 ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2019-04-25 7:38 ` Thomas Huth
2019-04-30 10:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-30 10:11 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-04-24 8:23 ` Michal Privoznik
2019-04-24 8:23 ` Michal Privoznik
2019-05-07 5:07 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-07 16:18 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-08 9:16 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-08 20:28 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-09 8:31 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-09 9:14 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-09 15:52 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-09 16:08 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-09 17:44 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-10 6:28 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-10 17:03 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-10 6:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-10 17:00 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-09 18:19 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-10 9:29 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-10 17:17 ` Eduardo Habkost
2019-05-10 17:26 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-05-13 11:49 ` Markus Armbruster
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