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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, libvir-list@redhat.com,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com>, Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	Gary Ching-Pang Lin <glin@suse.com>,
	Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [qemu RFC v2] qapi: add "firmware.json"
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 14:56:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f8c3945f-d2e7-e4a4-2b38-2736acd99e7c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180418122312.ebmd2nrtvk2h5e45@sirius.home.kraxel.org>

On 04/18/18 14:23, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
>> Hmmm, I'm not sure I agree. One use case is that you want a domain
>> config in which well-known OS-es, signed by the MS UEFI certs, just boot
>> with SB enabled. (Some of our internal folks really want this.)
>>
>> Another use case is that you want a domain in which SB *can* be enabled,
>> but your installer is signed with a different certificate chain (or it
>> is unsigned), and with *just* the MS certs enrolled, it wouldn't boot at
>> all. So you want the SB *feature*, but definitely not the initial
>> enrollment / SB *operational mode*.
> 
> So "secure-boot-enrolled-keys" also has SB turned on.

Yes.

>> For me to understand you better, are you suggesting merely that I:
>>
>> - rename @secure-boot-enrolled-keys to @enrolled-keys, and
>>
>> - drop the reference to @secure-boot from the end of the @enrolled-keys
>>   documentation paragraph? (Namely, "@secure-boot-enrolled-keys is only
>>   valid if the firmware also supports @secure-boot").
> 
> Yes.  So "secure-boot" specifies "firmware binary supports secure-boot"
> and "enrolled-keys" specifies "firmware nvram template has keys enrolled
> (and SB enabled).

OK.

> Other question:  Do we want allow to specify which certs/keys are
> enrolled?  Which would probably mean to drop "enrolled-keys" from
> features and make it an optional string instead,

Not an enum? "Microsoft" below should be an enum constant, shouldn't it?

> then specify
> "'enrolled-keys' : 'Microsoft'" in the json file.

If this is really necessary (up to Dan :) ), I'm down with it.

Thanks
Laszlo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-18 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17 22:40 [Qemu-devel] [qemu RFC v2] qapi: add "firmware.json" Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-18  6:02 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-18  8:32   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-18  9:04     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-18 11:48       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-18 11:57         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-18 12:30           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-18 12:32             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-18 12:57               ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-18 12:23         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-18 12:56           ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2018-04-18 13:06             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-18 13:30               ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-18 13:53                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-18 14:03                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-18 14:06                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-18 14:45                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-19  0:09     ` David Gibson
2018-04-19  8:09       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-20  1:03         ` David Gibson
2018-04-20  8:47           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-20  9:01             ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-19  8:45   ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-18  8:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-18 11:35   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-19  7:48     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-19  7:56       ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-19  8:39         ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-19  9:12           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-20  8:11             ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-20  9:34               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-20  9:46                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-20  9:50                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-20 10:41                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-20 15:45                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-20 15:39                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-23  0:10                 ` David Gibson
2018-04-23  9:39                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-20 12:53           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-20 16:04             ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-20 16:37               ` Markus Armbruster
2018-04-20 23:25                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-18  9:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-18 11:52   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-18 12:03     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-18 12:36       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-18 12:40       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-18 15:17         ` Eric Blake
2018-04-18 15:27           ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-18 15:28             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-18 15:30             ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-19  8:57 ` Thomas Huth

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