From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Jintack Lim <jintack@cs.columbia.edu>,
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] intel-iommu: maintain per-device iova ranges
Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 17:22:03 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f933ba4d-a025-7c94-69c6-d21f408eb729@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180503075302.GC29580@xz-mi>
On 2018年05月03日 15:53, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 03:43:35PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>
>> On 2018年05月03日 15:28, Peter Xu wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 03:20:11PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> On 2018年05月03日 14:04, Peter Xu wrote:
>>>>> IMHO the guest can't really detect this, but it'll found that the
>>>>> device is not working functionally if it's doing something like what
>>>>> Jason has mentioned.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually now I have had an idea if we really want to live well even
>>>>> with Jason's example: maybe we'll need to identify PSI/DSI. For DSI,
>>>>> we don't remap for mapped pages; for PSI, we unmap and remap the
>>>>> mapped pages. That'll complicate the stuff a bit, but it should
>>>>> satisfy all the people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>> So it looks like there will be still unnecessary unamps.
>>> Could I ask what do you mean by "unecessary unmaps"?
>> It's for "for PSI, we unmap and remap the mapped pages". So for the first
>> "unmap" how do you know it was really necessary without knowing the state of
>> current shadow page table?
> I don't. Could I just unmap it anyway? Say, now the guest _modified_
> the PTE already. Yes I think it's following the spec, but it is
> really _unsafe_. We can know that from what it has done already.
> Then I really think a unmap+map would be good enough for us... After
> all that behavior can cause DMA error even on real hardwares. It can
> never tell.
I mean for following case:
1) guest maps A1 (iova) to XXX
2) guest maps A2 (A1 + 4K) (iova) to YYY
3) guest maps A3 (A1 + 8K) (iova) to ZZZ
4) guest unmaps A2 and A2, for reducing the number of PSIs, it can
invalidate A1 with a range of 2M
If this is allowed by spec, looks like A1 will be unmaped and mapped.
Thanks
>
>>>> How about record the mappings in the tree too?
>>> As I mentioned, for L1 guest (e.g., DPDK applications running in L1)
>>> it'll be fine. But I'm just afraid we will have other use cases, like
>>> the L2 guests. That might need tons of the mapping entries in the
>>> worst case scenario.
>>>
>> Yes, but that's the price of shadow page tables.
> So that's why I would like to propose this mergable interval tree. It
> might greatly reduce the price if we can reach a consensus on how we
> should treat those strange-behaved guest OSs. Thanks,
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-03 9:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-25 4:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] intel-iommu: nested vIOMMU, cleanups, bug fixes Peter Xu
2018-04-25 4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] intel-iommu: send PSI always even if across PDEs Peter Xu
2018-04-25 4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] intel-iommu: remove IntelIOMMUNotifierNode Peter Xu
2018-04-25 4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] intel-iommu: add iommu lock Peter Xu
2018-04-25 16:26 ` Emilio G. Cota
2018-04-26 5:45 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27 5:13 ` Jason Wang
2018-04-27 6:26 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27 7:19 ` Tian, Kevin
2018-04-27 9:53 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-28 1:54 ` Tian, Kevin
2018-04-28 1:43 ` Jason Wang
2018-04-28 2:24 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-28 2:42 ` Jason Wang
2018-04-28 3:06 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-28 3:11 ` Jason Wang
2018-04-28 3:14 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-28 3:16 ` Jason Wang
2018-04-30 7:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-30 7:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-03 5:39 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-25 4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] intel-iommu: only do page walk for MAP notifiers Peter Xu
2018-04-25 4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] intel-iommu: introduce vtd_page_walk_info Peter Xu
2018-04-25 4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] intel-iommu: pass in address space when page walk Peter Xu
2018-04-25 4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] util: implement simple interval tree logic Peter Xu
2018-04-27 5:53 ` Jason Wang
2018-04-27 6:27 ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03 7:10 ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03 7:21 ` Jason Wang
2018-05-03 7:30 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-25 4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] intel-iommu: maintain per-device iova ranges Peter Xu
2018-04-27 6:07 ` Jason Wang
2018-04-27 6:34 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27 7:02 ` Tian, Kevin
2018-04-27 7:28 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27 7:44 ` Tian, Kevin
2018-04-27 9:55 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27 11:40 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-27 23:37 ` Tian, Kevin
2018-05-03 6:04 ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03 7:20 ` Jason Wang
2018-05-03 7:28 ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03 7:43 ` Jason Wang
2018-05-03 7:53 ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03 9:22 ` Jason Wang [this message]
2018-05-03 9:53 ` Peter Xu
2018-05-03 12:01 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-28 1:49 ` Jason Wang
2018-04-25 4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] intel-iommu: don't unmap all for shadow page table Peter Xu
2018-04-25 4:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] intel-iommu: remove notify_unmap for page walk Peter Xu
2018-04-25 5:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] intel-iommu: nested vIOMMU, cleanups, bug fixes no-reply
2018-04-25 5:34 ` Peter Xu
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