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From: Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jie Wang <wangjie88@huawei.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: eric.fangyi@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH] pr-manager-helper: fix pr process been killed when reconectting
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 12:08:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f9b6dd9e-3e58-add9-c5ab-da1a883a0a4b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ca74a7bf-dd68-d4c3-2c25-8e43db52678c@redhat.com>

On 5/29/19 11:34 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 29/05/19 09:33, Michal Privoznik wrote:
>> On 5/28/19 7:45 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>> On 28/05/19 15:06, Jie Wang wrote:
>>>> if pr-helper been killed and qemu send disconnect event to libvirt
>>>> and libvirt started a new pr-helper process, the new pr-heleper
>>>> been killed again when qemu is connectting to the new pr-helper,
>>>> qemu will never send disconnect to libvirt, and libvirt will never
>>>> receive connected event.
>>>
>>> I think this would let a guest "spam" events just by sending a lot PR
>>> commands.  Also, as you said, in this case QEMU has never sent a
>>> "connected" event, so I'm not sure why it should send a disconnection
>>> event.
>>
>> So pr manager is initialized on the first PR command and not when qemu
>> is starting?
> 
> It is initialized when QEMU is started, but if it dies, that's not
> detected until the first PR command.  The command is retried for 5
> seconds, which should give libvirt ample time to restart the PR manager
> (and it's an exceptional situation anyway).

Ah yes, I recall vaguelly testing this whilst writing patches for libvirt.

> 
>> If a user inside the guest could somehow kill pr-helper process in the
>> host then yes, they could spam libvirt/qemu. But if a user from inside a
>> guest can kill a process in the host that is much bigger problem than
>> spaming libvirt.
> 
> This is true.
> 
>>> Does libvirt monitor at all the pr-helper to check if it dies?  Or does
>>> it rely exclusively on QEMU's events?
>>
>> Libvirt relies solely on QEMU's events. Just like with qemu process
>> itself, libvirt can't rely on SIGCHILD because the daemon might be
>> restarted which would reparent all qemu and pr-helper processes
>> rendering libvirt wait for SIGCHILD useless.
>>
>> But there is an exception to this: when libvirt is spawning pr-helper it
>> does so by following these steps:
>>
>> 1) Try to acquire (lock) pidfile
>> 2) unlink(socket)
>> 3) spawn pr-helper process (this yields child's PID)
>> 4) wait some time until socket is created
>> 5) some follow up work (move child's PID into same cgroup as qemu's main
>> thread, relabel the socket so that qemu can access it)
>>
>> If any of these steps fails then child is killed. However, the PID is
>> not recorded anywhere and thus is forgotten once control jumps out of
>> the function.
> 
> Note that qemu-pr-helper supports the systemd socket activation
> protocol.  Would it help if libvirt used it?

Thing is, libvirt creates a mount namespace for domains (one namespace 
for one domain). In this namespace a dummy /dev is mounted and only 
nodes that qemu is configured to have are created. For instance, you 
won't see /dev/sda there unless your domain has it as a disk. Then, 
libvirt moves pr-helper process into the same cgroups as the qemu's main 
thread. This is all done so that pr-helper has the same view of the 
system as qemu. I don't think that he same result can be achieved using 
socket activation.
Also, libvirt spawns one pr-helper per domain (so that the socket can be 
private and share seclabel with qemu process it's attached to).

Michal


  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-30 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-28 13:06 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] pr-manager-helper: fix pr process been killed when reconectting Jie Wang
2019-05-28 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Paolo Bonzini
2019-05-29  7:33   ` Michal Privoznik
2019-05-29  8:37     ` Jie Wang
2019-05-29  9:37       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-05-29  9:34     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-05-30 10:08       ` Michal Privoznik [this message]
2019-05-30 10:59         ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-06-11 13:51           ` wangjie (P)
2019-06-11 14:46             ` Paolo Bonzini

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