From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D23uf-0005Ps-Ue for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 03:55:02 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D23ub-0005Ol-MI for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 03:55:00 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D23tS-0004Ax-9Z for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 03:53:46 -0500 Received: from [62.240.72.111] (helo=smtp2.dnainternet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D23Qb-0005OR-Hk for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 03:23:57 -0500 Received: from 9-69.cable.lpoy.dnainternet.fi ([85.131.76.69]:33668 "EHLO [192.168.1.2]" TLS-CIPHER: ) by smtp2.dnainternet.net with ESMTP id S1228891AbVBRIXz (ORCPT ); Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:23:55 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <1108700993.18898.119.camel@aragorn> References: <200502121018.09039.jm@poure.com> <20050217215350.GB1446@mail.13thfloor.at> <421527EB.9060604@bellard.org> <1108700993.18898.119.camel@aragorn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Asko Kauppi Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo will stop March 1, 2005 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:23:52 +0200 Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Another, or complimentary, way to make money would be to have a working "Linux on Mac" solution. There is none. This was discussed recently on the Mac-on-Linux (MOL) mailing list, and offers for 'donations' (against a working implementation ;) started to drop in.. I see both MOL and QEMU to have the capabilities to do what it takes, a 'Virtual Linux' box running under OS X. Oh, PowerPC flavor, not x86.. Still another.. Something like Scratchbox (embedded Linux sandbox environment, targetting Linux/ppc and Linux/arm from Linux/x86 host), but for the PowerPC host. That's basically just an extension of the above plan. -ak 18.2.2005 kello 06:29, John R. Hogerhuis kirjoitti: Fabrice, > > I've followed this project for a while, and though I'm not surprised > the > zealots are coming out of the woodwork, I am surprised by the vehemence > of some of the long time users. > > I think your strategy is sound. You need a benefactor, and QEMU is > certainly useful enough to deserve that. I don't see the problem of > using your new kqemu as a temporary lever to get you and your project > to > the next level. No one is losing anything, and if your strategy works, > everybody will gain. My point of view: Free software isn't about being > Jesus, holding hands and singing Kumbaya... it's about getting what we > want, the way we want it... Free, Open Source, High Quality, Soon, and > without putting developers in the poor house. If you have a stategy in > mind to maximize those benefits, utilizing some new code you wrote, I > say, why the heck not? > > I hope your lever gets what you want. All of this doom-and-gloom is > just > a lot of noise, the way you've licensed this from the beginning as free > and open source, your other FLOSS projects, and should engender a lot > more trust than people seem to be granting you. > > The conspiracy theories about QEMU-fast are absolutely ludicrous. It > was > a kludge, a stop-gap dead-end. Patched kernels is really not a long > term > solution. Good for what it was. Personally I never bothered running > qemu-fast. > > Good luck with your strategy, I hope it works out. > > -- John. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qemu-devel mailing list > Qemu-devel@nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel >