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From: Collin Walling <walling@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, thuth@redhat.com,
	david@redhat.com, wangyanan55@huawei.com, philmd@linaro.org,
	marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com, eduardo@habkost.net,
	armbru@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] cpu-models: add "disable-deprecated-feats" option to cpu model expansion
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 12:58:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa5e4d8b-eb4f-4b81-9da9-6a71912ce1f7@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZipcG7Dy5t83HKMY@redhat.com>

On 4/25/24 09:35, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024 at 03:12:42PM -0400, Collin Walling wrote:
>> On 4/24/24 13:51, Collin Walling wrote:
>>> On 4/24/24 04:20, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 05:06:53PM -0400, Collin Walling wrote:
>>>>> This optional parameter for query-cpu-model-expansion enables CPU
>>>>> model features flagged as deprecated to appear in the resulting
>>>>> list of properties.
>>>>>
>>>>> This commit does not add support beyond adding a new argument
>>>>> to the query. All queries with this option present will result
>>>>> in an error claiming this option is not supported.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Collin Walling <walling@linux.ibm.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>  qapi/machine-target.json         | 7 ++++++-
>>>>>  target/arm/arm-qmp-cmds.c        | 7 +++++++
>>>>>  target/i386/cpu-sysemu.c         | 7 +++++++
>>>>>  target/s390x/cpu_models_sysemu.c | 7 +++++++
>>>>>  4 files changed, 27 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/qapi/machine-target.json b/qapi/machine-target.json
>>>>> index 29e695aa06..b9da284d2d 100644
>>>>> --- a/qapi/machine-target.json
>>>>> +++ b/qapi/machine-target.json
>>>>> @@ -285,6 +285,10 @@
>>>>>  #
>>>>>  # @type: expansion type, specifying how to expand the CPU model
>>>>>  #
>>>>> +# @disable-deprecated-feats: include CPU model features that are
>>>>> +#     flagged as deprecated. If supported, these features will appear
>>>>> +#     in the properties list paired with false.
>>>>> +#
>>>>>  # Returns: a CpuModelExpansionInfo describing the expanded CPU model
>>>>>  #
>>>>>  # Errors:
>>>>> @@ -298,7 +302,8 @@
>>>>>  ##
>>>>>  { 'command': 'query-cpu-model-expansion',
>>>>>    'data': { 'type': 'CpuModelExpansionType',
>>>>> -            'model': 'CpuModelInfo' },
>>>>> +            'model': 'CpuModelInfo',
>>>>> +            '*disable-deprecated-feats': 'bool' },
>>>>>    'returns': 'CpuModelExpansionInfo',
>>>>>    'if': { 'any': [ 'TARGET_S390X',
>>>>>                     'TARGET_I386',
>>>>
>>>> I think this is an odd design approach. Lets consider the
>>>> current output:
>>>>
>>>> (QEMU) query-cpu-model-expansion type=static model={"name":"z14"}
>>>> {
>>>>     "return": {
>>>>         "model": {
>>>>             "name": "z14-base",
>>>>             "props": {
>>>>                 "aefsi": true,
>>>>                 "aen": true,
>>>>                 ...snip...
>>>>                 "vxpd": true,
>>>>                 "zpci": true
>>>>             }
>>>>         }
>>>>     }
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If we want to inform a mgmt app of some features being deprecated,
>>>> why not just unconditionally include that info in the reply thus:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> (QEMU) query-cpu-model-expansion type=static model={"name":"z14"}
>>>> {
>>>>     "return": {
>>>>         "model": {
>>>>             "name": "z14-base",
>>>>             "props": {
>>>>                 "aefsi": true,
>>>>                 "aen": true,
>>>>                 ...snip...
>>>>                 "vxpd": true,
>>>>                 "zpci": true
>>>>             }
>>>>             "deprecated-props": ["ppa15", "ri"]
>>>>         }
>>>>     }
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With regards,
>>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> That's a good idea. In this way, we're not mucking up any of the CPU
>>> model information and this makes it much more clear as to which features
>>> are actually deprecated... I like this more.
>>>
>>> I'll work on this.
>>>
>>
>> Follow-up question as I look more closely to the QMP response data
>> structures: should the "deprecated-props" list be added to the
>> CpuModelInfo struct, or to the CpuModelExpansionInfo struct?
>>
>> The former makes more sense to me, as the deprecated features are tied
>> to the actual CPU model... but unsure if other QMP commands would even
>> care about this info? I will begin with this approach, and if feedback
>> in the interim strongly sways in the other direction, then it should be
>> an easy change :)
> 
> I hink CpuModelInfo makes more sense than CpuModelExpansionInfo.
> The CpuModelExpansionInfo struct feels pretty pointless to me
> in fact, since the only thing it contains is CpuModelInfo !
> 

Agreed! :)

> I think it should also be added to 'CpuDefinitionInfo', which
> is the return type of 'query-cpu-defintions'.  This command already
> has a 'unavailable-features' array listing features which the host
> does not support. Conceptually having a 'deprecated-features' array
> alongside that is a nice fit.
> 

Okay. Pending review on the v3 I posted yesterday -- if those patches
look like they're on the right track, then I can add this
"deprecated-props" array to CpuDefinitionInfo as well for the next
iteration.

> 
> 
> With regards,
> Daniel

-- 
Regards,
  Collin



  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-25 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-23 21:06 [PATCH v2 0/3] query-cpu-model-expansion: add disable-deprecated-feats arg Collin Walling
2024-04-23 21:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] cpu-models: add "disable-deprecated-feats" option to cpu model expansion Collin Walling
2024-04-24  6:19   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-04-24 17:46     ` Collin Walling
2024-04-25  6:31       ` Markus Armbruster
2024-04-25 17:35         ` Collin Walling
2024-04-26  8:18           ` Markus Armbruster
2024-04-24  8:20   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-04-24 17:51     ` Collin Walling
2024-04-24 19:12       ` Collin Walling
2024-04-25 13:35         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-04-25 16:58           ` Collin Walling [this message]
2024-04-23 21:06 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] target/s390x: add support for "disable-deprecated-feats" expansion option Collin Walling
2024-04-24  7:24   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-24 18:33     ` Collin Walling
2024-04-25  8:10       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-25 16:56         ` Collin Walling
2024-04-23 21:06 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] target/s390x: flag te and cte as deprecated Collin Walling

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