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From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-block@nongnu.org" <qemu-block@nongnu.org>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Anton Nefedov <anton.nefedov@virtuozzo.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-4.2 0/4] qcow2: Fix data corruption on XFS
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 11:16:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb5ae941-622f-c82d-9eb8-be3fe66e3fb6@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <908ffc42-8328-969d-641b-4596ec0b6b45@redhat.com>

01.11.2019 14:12, Max Reitz wrote:
> On 01.11.19 11:28, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>> 01.11.2019 13:20, Max Reitz wrote:
>>> On 01.11.19 11:00, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This series builds on the previous RFC.  The workaround is now applied
>>>> unconditionally of AIO mode and filesystem because we don’t know those
>>>> things for remote filesystems.  Furthermore, bdrv_co_get_self_request()
>>>> has been moved to block/io.c.
>>>>
>>>> Applying the workaround unconditionally is fine from a performance
>>>> standpoint, because it should actually be dead code, thanks to patch 1
>>>> (the elephant in the room).  As far as I know, there is no other block
>>>> driver but qcow2 in handle_alloc_space() that would submit zero writes
>>>> as part of normal I/O so it can occur concurrently to other write
>>>> requests.  It still makes sense to take the workaround for file-posix
>>>> because we can’t really prevent that any other block driver will submit
>>>> zero writes as part of normal I/O in the future.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, let’s get to the elephant.
>>>>
>>>>   From input by XFS developers
>>>> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1765547#c7) it seems clear
>>>> that c8bb23cbdbe causes fundamental performance problems on XFS with
>>>> aio=native that cannot be fixed.  In other cases, c8bb23cbdbe improves
>>>> performance or we wouldn’t have it.
>>>>
>>>> In general, avoiding performance regressions is more important than
>>>> improving performance, unless the regressions are just a minor corner
>>>> case or insignificant when compared to the improvement.  The XFS
>>>> regression is no minor corner case, and it isn’t insignificant.  Laurent
>>>> Vivier has found performance to decrease by as much as 88 % (on ppc64le,
>>>> fio in a guest with 4k blocks, iodepth=8: 1662 kB/s from 13.9 MB/s).
>>>
>>> Ah, crap.
>>>
>>> I wanted to send this series as early today as possible to get as much
>>> feedback as possible, so I’ve only started doing benchmarks now.
>>>
>>> The obvious
>>>
>>> $ qemu-img bench -t none -n -w -S 65536 test.qcow2
>>>
>>> on XFS takes like 6 seconds on master, and like 50 to 80 seconds with
>>> c8bb23cbdbe reverted.  So now on to guest tests...
>>
>> Aha, that's very interesting) What about aio-native which should be slowed down?
>> Could it be tested like this?
> 
> That is aio=native (-n).
> 
> But so far I don’t see any significant difference in guest tests (i.e.,
> fio --rw=write --bs=4k --iodepth=8 --runtime=1m --direct=1
> --ioengine=libaio --thread --numjobs=16 --size=2G --time_based), neither
> with 64 kB nor with 2 MB clusters.  (But only on XFS, I’ll have to see
> about ext4 still.)

hmm, this possibly mostly tests writes to already allocated clusters. Has fio
an option to behave like qemu-img bench with -S 65536, i.e. write once into
each cluster?

> 
> (Reverting c8bb23cbdbe makes it like 1 to 2 % faster.)
> 
> Max
> 


-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-01 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-01 10:00 [PATCH for-4.2 0/4] qcow2: Fix data corruption on XFS Max Reitz
2019-11-01 10:00 ` [PATCH for-4.2 1/4] Revert "qcow2: skip writing zero buffers to empty COW areas" Max Reitz
2019-11-01 10:22   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-01 12:40   ` Eric Blake
2019-11-01 14:01     ` Max Reitz
2019-11-01 15:42       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-01 16:02         ` Max Reitz
2019-11-01 10:00 ` [PATCH for-4.2 2/4] block: Make wait/mark serialising requests public Max Reitz
2019-11-01 10:00 ` [PATCH for-4.2 3/4] block: Add bdrv_co_get_self_request() Max Reitz
2019-11-01 10:00 ` [PATCH for-4.2 4/4] block/file-posix: Let post-EOF fallocate serialize Max Reitz
2019-11-01 10:20 ` [PATCH for-4.2 0/4] qcow2: Fix data corruption on XFS Max Reitz
2019-11-01 10:28   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-01 11:12     ` Max Reitz
2019-11-01 11:16       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2019-11-01 11:20         ` Max Reitz
2019-11-01 12:34           ` Max Reitz
2019-11-01 13:09             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-01 13:36               ` Denis Lunev
2019-11-01 13:40                 ` Max Reitz
2019-11-01 13:30             ` Max Reitz
2019-11-01 15:06               ` Max Reitz

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