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From: Artyom Tarasenko <atar4qemu@googlemail.com>
To: Igor Kovalenko <igor.v.kovalenko@gmail.com>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: target-sparc/TODO
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:17:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb8d4f70908211417j145566e0j6fdbc230b9b6cebb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b2fa41d60908211410k600b219nf3e7247f85040fad@mail.gmail.com>

2009/8/21 Igor Kovalenko <igor.v.kovalenko@gmail.com>:
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Artyom
> Tarasenko<atar4qemu@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> 2009/8/21 Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>:
>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Artyom
>>> Tarasenko<atar4qemu@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> 2009/8/21 Artyom Tarasenko <atar4qemu@googlemail.com>:
>>>>> 2009/8/20 Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Artyom
>>>>>> Tarasenko<atar4qemu@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Particularly I'm interested if
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> jmp     %l1, %g4, %g0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> may behave other than on a real hw.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, if rd is %g0, the current PC will not be written anywhere (not by
>>>>>>>> real HW either).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason I asked is the two following pieces of code work
>>>>>>> differently on a real and emulated SS-5. On a real one spacel! does an
>>>>>>> asi write, and spacel@ does an asi read, and under qemu  spacel! seems
>>>>>>> to do nothing, and spacel@ returns its second parameter multiplied by
>>>>>>> 4. Both of them don't even try to call an [unimplemented] asi
>>>>>>> operation, I've runned the tests with mmu and asi debug turned on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Real SS-5:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok 0 0 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> Data Access Error
>>>>>>> ok 0 20 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>> ok 12345678 0 20 spacel!
>>>>>>> ok 0 20 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> 12345678
>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> qemu SS-5:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok 0 0 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>> ok 0 20 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> 80
>>>>>>> ok 12345678 0 20 spacel!
>>>>>>> ok 0 20 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> 80
>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know sparc asm good enogh, but qemu behavior seems to be
>>>>>>> logical: in the first case I see no store op, and there are shifts
>>>>>>> which would multiply by 4:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok see spacel!
>>>>>>> code spacel!
>>>>>>> ffd26e0c     ld      [%g7], %l2
>>>>>>> ffd26e10     add     %g7, 4, %g7
>>>>>>> ffd26e14     ld      [%g7], %l0
>>>>>>> ffd26e18     add     %g7, 4, %g7
>>>>>>> ffd26e1c     sll     %g4, 2, %g4
>>>>>>> ffd26e20     call    ffd26e24
>>>>>>> ffd26e24     add     %g0, 14, %l1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok ffd26e24 dis
>>>>>>> ffd26e24     add     %g0, 14, %l1
>>>>>>> ffd26e28     add     %o7, %l1, %l1
>>>>>>> ffd26e2c     jmp     %l1, %g4, %g0
>>>>>>> ffd26e30     ba      ffd26f68
>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok see spacel@
>>>>>>> code spacel@
>>>>>>> ffd26830     ld      [%g7], %l0
>>>>>>> ffd26834     add     %g7, 4, %g7
>>>>>>> ffd26838     sll     %g4, 2, %g4
>>>>>>> ffd2683c     call    ffd26840
>>>>>>> ffd26840     add     %g0, 14, %l1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok ffd26840 dis
>>>>>>> ffd26840     add     %g0, 14, %l1
>>>>>>> ffd26844     add     %o7, %l1, %l1
>>>>>>> ffd26848     jmp     %l1, %g4, %g0
>>>>>>> ffd2684c     ba      ffd26984
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The code is identical on a real and emulated SS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It must be the jump, which jumps differently on a real hw and under
>>>>>>> qemu. Do you see from the code where the jump would jump to, or maybe
>>>>>>> you have a suggestion how to check where the jump jumps to on the real
>>>>>>> hw?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The target of the call instruction is also a delay slot instruction
>>>>>> for the call itself. Maybe this case is not handled correctly?
>>>>>
>>>>> Good idea! Don't know how to test it though.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what about "ba" in the delay slot of "jmp"? Is the correct
>>>>> behavior described somewhere? Would jump just be ignored? Whould it
>>>>> execute one instruction on jump destination and then branch? Would
>>>>> branch be ignored?
>>>>
>>>> Page 55 of The SPARC v8 Architecture Manual
>>>> (http://www.sparc.org/standards/V8.pdf) describes this case
>>>> explicitly:
>>>> cpu should execute one instruction on the jump target and then branch.
>>>>  Is it what qemu currently does?
>>>
>>> I may be blind, I don't see the description of this case in that page.
>>
>> I wasn't referring the call case, but jmp+ba case (two last ops in the
>> listing above). This DCTI is described on pages marked 55-56 (pages
>> 54-54 in a pdf reader). That's the first case in the table 5-12.
>>
>>> Both QEMU and real (Sparc64) hardware exit with return value of 3, so
>>> the inc is re-executed. If I add a nop in the call delay slot, the
>>> return value is 2.
>>
>> Can you make a similar test, but with ba in the jmp's delay slot?
>
> SPARC-V8 left as undefined the result of executing a delayed
> conditional branch that had a delayed control
> transfer in its delay slot...

Have you taken a look on  the pages 55-56 (pages 54-55 in a pdf
reader) of the V8 manual? Particularly the table 5-12 (the very first
case) describe the case pretty explicitly.

Also it would have been strange if Sun used an undefined case in all
of their own firmwares.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-21 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-17 10:52 [Qemu-devel] target-sparc/TODO Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-17 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] target-sparc/TODO Blue Swirl
2009-08-19 10:17   ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-19 16:43     ` Blue Swirl
2009-08-20  9:44       ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-20 19:15         ` Blue Swirl
2009-08-21  9:58           ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-21 12:40             ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-21 19:45               ` Blue Swirl
2009-08-21 21:01                 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-21 21:10                   ` Igor Kovalenko
2009-08-21 21:17                     ` Artyom Tarasenko [this message]
2009-08-22  6:51                   ` Blue Swirl
2009-08-22 12:40                     ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-22 13:30                       ` Robert Reif
2009-08-22 17:25                         ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-22 18:46                           ` Robert Reif
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-20 19:59 [Qemu-devel] target-sparc/TODO Artyom Tarasenko
2010-08-20 20:19 ` [Qemu-devel] target-sparc/TODO Blue Swirl

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