From: Artyom Tarasenko <atar4qemu@googlemail.com>
To: Igor Kovalenko <igor.v.kovalenko@gmail.com>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: target-sparc/TODO
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:17:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb8d4f70908211417j145566e0j6fdbc230b9b6cebb@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b2fa41d60908211410k600b219nf3e7247f85040fad@mail.gmail.com>
2009/8/21 Igor Kovalenko <igor.v.kovalenko@gmail.com>:
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Artyom
> Tarasenko<atar4qemu@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> 2009/8/21 Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>:
>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Artyom
>>> Tarasenko<atar4qemu@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> 2009/8/21 Artyom Tarasenko <atar4qemu@googlemail.com>:
>>>>> 2009/8/20 Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Artyom
>>>>>> Tarasenko<atar4qemu@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Particularly I'm interested if
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> jmp %l1, %g4, %g0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> may behave other than on a real hw.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, if rd is %g0, the current PC will not be written anywhere (not by
>>>>>>>> real HW either).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason I asked is the two following pieces of code work
>>>>>>> differently on a real and emulated SS-5. On a real one spacel! does an
>>>>>>> asi write, and spacel@ does an asi read, and under qemu spacel! seems
>>>>>>> to do nothing, and spacel@ returns its second parameter multiplied by
>>>>>>> 4. Both of them don't even try to call an [unimplemented] asi
>>>>>>> operation, I've runned the tests with mmu and asi debug turned on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Real SS-5:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok 0 0 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> Data Access Error
>>>>>>> ok 0 20 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>> ok 12345678 0 20 spacel!
>>>>>>> ok 0 20 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> 12345678
>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> qemu SS-5:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok 0 0 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>> ok 0 20 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> 80
>>>>>>> ok 12345678 0 20 spacel!
>>>>>>> ok 0 20 spacel@ .
>>>>>>> 80
>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know sparc asm good enogh, but qemu behavior seems to be
>>>>>>> logical: in the first case I see no store op, and there are shifts
>>>>>>> which would multiply by 4:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok see spacel!
>>>>>>> code spacel!
>>>>>>> ffd26e0c ld [%g7], %l2
>>>>>>> ffd26e10 add %g7, 4, %g7
>>>>>>> ffd26e14 ld [%g7], %l0
>>>>>>> ffd26e18 add %g7, 4, %g7
>>>>>>> ffd26e1c sll %g4, 2, %g4
>>>>>>> ffd26e20 call ffd26e24
>>>>>>> ffd26e24 add %g0, 14, %l1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok ffd26e24 dis
>>>>>>> ffd26e24 add %g0, 14, %l1
>>>>>>> ffd26e28 add %o7, %l1, %l1
>>>>>>> ffd26e2c jmp %l1, %g4, %g0
>>>>>>> ffd26e30 ba ffd26f68
>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok see spacel@
>>>>>>> code spacel@
>>>>>>> ffd26830 ld [%g7], %l0
>>>>>>> ffd26834 add %g7, 4, %g7
>>>>>>> ffd26838 sll %g4, 2, %g4
>>>>>>> ffd2683c call ffd26840
>>>>>>> ffd26840 add %g0, 14, %l1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ok ffd26840 dis
>>>>>>> ffd26840 add %g0, 14, %l1
>>>>>>> ffd26844 add %o7, %l1, %l1
>>>>>>> ffd26848 jmp %l1, %g4, %g0
>>>>>>> ffd2684c ba ffd26984
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The code is identical on a real and emulated SS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It must be the jump, which jumps differently on a real hw and under
>>>>>>> qemu. Do you see from the code where the jump would jump to, or maybe
>>>>>>> you have a suggestion how to check where the jump jumps to on the real
>>>>>>> hw?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The target of the call instruction is also a delay slot instruction
>>>>>> for the call itself. Maybe this case is not handled correctly?
>>>>>
>>>>> Good idea! Don't know how to test it though.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what about "ba" in the delay slot of "jmp"? Is the correct
>>>>> behavior described somewhere? Would jump just be ignored? Whould it
>>>>> execute one instruction on jump destination and then branch? Would
>>>>> branch be ignored?
>>>>
>>>> Page 55 of The SPARC v8 Architecture Manual
>>>> (http://www.sparc.org/standards/V8.pdf) describes this case
>>>> explicitly:
>>>> cpu should execute one instruction on the jump target and then branch.
>>>> Is it what qemu currently does?
>>>
>>> I may be blind, I don't see the description of this case in that page.
>>
>> I wasn't referring the call case, but jmp+ba case (two last ops in the
>> listing above). This DCTI is described on pages marked 55-56 (pages
>> 54-54 in a pdf reader). That's the first case in the table 5-12.
>>
>>> Both QEMU and real (Sparc64) hardware exit with return value of 3, so
>>> the inc is re-executed. If I add a nop in the call delay slot, the
>>> return value is 2.
>>
>> Can you make a similar test, but with ba in the jmp's delay slot?
>
> SPARC-V8 left as undefined the result of executing a delayed
> conditional branch that had a delayed control
> transfer in its delay slot...
Have you taken a look on the pages 55-56 (pages 54-55 in a pdf
reader) of the V8 manual? Particularly the table 5-12 (the very first
case) describe the case pretty explicitly.
Also it would have been strange if Sun used an undefined case in all
of their own firmwares.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-21 21:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-17 10:52 [Qemu-devel] target-sparc/TODO Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-17 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] target-sparc/TODO Blue Swirl
2009-08-19 10:17 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-19 16:43 ` Blue Swirl
2009-08-20 9:44 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-20 19:15 ` Blue Swirl
2009-08-21 9:58 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-21 12:40 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-21 19:45 ` Blue Swirl
2009-08-21 21:01 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-21 21:10 ` Igor Kovalenko
2009-08-21 21:17 ` Artyom Tarasenko [this message]
2009-08-22 6:51 ` Blue Swirl
2009-08-22 12:40 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-22 13:30 ` Robert Reif
2009-08-22 17:25 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2009-08-22 18:46 ` Robert Reif
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-20 19:59 [Qemu-devel] target-sparc/TODO Artyom Tarasenko
2010-08-20 20:19 ` [Qemu-devel] target-sparc/TODO Blue Swirl
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