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From: Artyom Tarasenko <atar4qemu@googlemail.com>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: Fun with sparc (was Re: qemu-ppc can't run static uClibc binaries.)
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:39:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fb8d4f71002201339y53b1042i22aab4a878707675@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f43fc5581002200934g16535c93j42130778aef5d2cd@mail.gmail.com>

2010/2/20 Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>:
> On 2/20/10, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net> wrote:
>> On Thursday 18 February 2010 05:21:16 Artyom Tarasenko wrote:
>>  > 2010/2/17 Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>:
>>  > > But it does imply that qemu is capable of decently running _something_ on
>>  > > sparc, so the problems I'm seeing are more likely to be uClibc or
>>  > > toolchain issues.
>>  >
>>  > qemu-sparc can decently run debian-40r8: gcc and all the other stuff
>>  > seem to work.
>>  >
>>  > Most versions of the NetBSD boot. Some require the original OBP
>>  > though. The only known to me version which definetely doesn't boot is
>>  > 3.0.2.
>>  >
>>  > Also since the last dma fix Solaris 2.4-2.5.1 seems to be also fully
>>  > functional. Don't have a suitable compiler to check whether it's
>>  > working under Solaris though.
>>  >
>>  > Debian-40r8 should have all the necessary stuff to build the uClibc
>>  > toolchain, right?
>>
>>  So I did a network install of that Debian image into a 4 gig disk image, and
>>  made some progress.
>>
>>  First a quick bug report: qemu-system-sparc tries to set the video window to
>>  900 pixels vertical, but my laptop's display is only 800 pixels tall, and the
>>  window manager trims it a bit more than that for the toolbar.  The kernel
>>  booting up seems to think the graphics window is still its original size
>>  renders text off the bottom of it.  But for some reason I can grab the window
>>  and resize it, and when I do this the emulated kernel's frame buffer gets the
>>  update and resizes its console to show the correct number of lines of text for
>>  the new size!  (So my question is, why didn't it get the size right when the
>>  window manager first resized it before I manually resized it again?)
>>
>>  Anyway: yay emulated sparc debian, I installed it, got a reasonable
>>  environment going, extracted my root filesystem image under there and chrooted
>>  into it... and everything worked fine.  (Well, trying to run a dynamically
>>  linked "hello world" still died with a bus error, but using the static busybox
>>  I could mount a tmpfs and list its contents, which I never could before.)
>>
>>  My plan had been to use sparc-debian's copy of gdb to track down why the
>>  binaries were going funky... but in that environment, they were behaving
>>  themselves.  Same binaries, built with the same toolchain, same qemu-system-
>>  sparc, same -M and -cpu and so on...
>>
>>  So I think "A-ha!  Booting a different kernel!  That's gotta be it!"
>>
>>  The debian-sparc image is using a 2.6.18 kernel (and I'm using a 2.6.32
>>  kernel), but it installed the relevant .config in /boot, so I copied that out
>>  with scp, did a "make oldconfig" up to 2.6.32 (holding down the enter key until
>>  it shut up), stripped out all the modules and disabled module support, put
>>  back in CONFIG_SERIAL_SUNZILOG_CONSOLE=y and friends, procfs, sysfs, and tmpfs
>>  (strange things to have as modules?), and CONFIG_SQUASHFS (that's my default
>>  root filesystem format).
>>
>>  I booted the result up with init=/bin/ash, did a "mount -t tmpfs /tmp /tmp",
>>  and then:
>>
>>   / # ls -l /tmp
>>   Illegal instruction
>>
>>  It's still misbehaving.  Huh.
>>
>>  This is as close as I can get to the debian kernel config without adding module
>>  support to my images (which is unnecessary complication for what they do).  I
>>  can try an ext2 root filesystem image but I don't see how that would cause
>>  this.
>>
>>  The part I don't understand is that same busybox binary, built with the same
>>  toolchain, worked just fine under the Debian kernel.  I'd blame my toolchain,
>>  but in a slightly different context THE BINARIES WORKED...
>>
>>  I don't understand what's going wrong here.  Did the kernel break on sparc
>>  sometime between 2.6.18 and 2.6.32 and nobody noticed?  Is sparc using
>>  software emulated floating point at the kernel level and that's configured as a
>>  module?  (Except I don't think busybox ls uses floating point...)
>
> Sparc32 is not maintained anymore so maybe it broke at some point.
> There was some discussion a few years ago.
>
>>  Do any sparc people understand what's going on here?  My next step is to grab
>>  a 2.6.18 kernel and try to get _that_ to work with the tweaked debian config
>>  (and an ext2 root filesystem since squashfs wasn't merged back then and had a
>>  format change when it was merged).  But I'm mostly flailing around blind
>>  here...
>
> I'm also trying different kernels using my .config. But already 2.6.12
> hangs in ESP probe.

Does it work on a real hw? 2.6.18 definitely does.
We still have bug(s) in ESP though: Solaris also hangs in ESP probe
after a soft reset in OBP.

-- 
Regards,
Artyom Tarasenko

solaris/sparc under qemu blog: http://tyom.blogspot.com/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-20 21:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-11 11:20 [Qemu-devel] qemu-ppc can't run static uClibc binaries Rob Landley
2010-02-11 12:32 ` Alexander Graf
2010-02-14  8:36   ` Rob Landley
2010-02-14 14:41     ` Alexander Graf
2010-02-15 11:10       ` Rob Landley
2010-02-15 11:19         ` Alexander Graf
2010-02-15 12:58           ` Rob Landley
2010-02-15 13:01             ` Alexander Graf
2010-02-16 18:31               ` Rob Landley
2010-02-16 18:36                 ` Alexander Graf
2010-02-16 19:14                   ` Rob Landley
2010-02-15 13:08             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-16  0:52               ` Rob Landley
2010-02-16  9:31                 ` Alexander Graf
2010-02-16 18:14                   ` Rob Landley
2010-02-17  9:24                     ` Artyom Tarasenko
2010-02-17 15:45                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-02-17 18:55                         ` Rob Landley
2010-02-17 20:46                           ` Blue Swirl
2010-02-18 11:38                             ` Artyom Tarasenko
2010-02-18 13:17                               ` Rob Landley
2010-02-18 14:10                                 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2010-02-18 13:05                             ` Rob Landley
2010-02-18 11:21                           ` Artyom Tarasenko
2010-02-18 13:14                             ` Rob Landley
2010-02-18 14:19                               ` Artyom Tarasenko
2010-02-20 17:17                             ` [Qemu-devel] Fun with sparc (was Re: qemu-ppc can't run static uClibc binaries.) Rob Landley
2010-02-20 17:34                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2010-02-20 18:38                                 ` Rob Landley
2010-02-20 21:59                                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-02-20 23:12                                     ` Rob Landley
2010-02-21 16:25                                       ` [Qemu-devel] Commit 085219f79cad broke Sparc-32 back in 2.6.28 Rob Landley
2010-02-21 23:57                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Miller
2010-02-22  0:28                                           ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2010-02-22  2:03                                             ` Rob Landley
2010-02-22  2:06                                         ` David Miller
2010-02-20 21:59                                   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Fun with sparc (was Re: qemu-ppc can't run static uClibc binaries.) Artyom Tarasenko
2010-02-20 21:39                                 ` Artyom Tarasenko [this message]
2010-02-20 22:03                                   ` Blue Swirl
2010-02-17 16:36                       ` [Qemu-devel] Re: qemu-ppc can't run static uClibc binaries Rob Landley
2010-02-16  8:21           ` [Qemu-devel] " Stuart Brady
2010-02-28 21:05             ` Aurelien Jarno

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