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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: William Roche <william.roche@oracle.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org
Cc: peterx@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	richard.henderson@linaro.org, philmd@linaro.org,
	peter.maydell@linaro.org, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	imammedo@redhat.com, eduardo@habkost.net,
	marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com, wangyanan55@huawei.com,
	zhao1.liu@intel.com, joao.m.martins@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] hugetlbfs memory HW error fixes
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 16:00:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fcf373b2-cb33-4764-a2bc-c95a0d76710b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31693f78-dbef-4465-9c8e-a68a25cb4af2@oracle.com>

On 03.12.24 15:39, William Roche wrote:
> On 12/3/24 15:08, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> Let me take a look at your tool below if I can find an explanation of
>> what is happening, because it's weird :)
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>
>>> At the end of this email, I included the source code of a simplistic
>>> test case that shows that the page is replaced in the case of standard
>>> page size.
>>>
>>> The idea of this test is simple:
>>>
>>> 1/ Create a local FILE with:
>>> # dd if=/dev/zero of=./FILE bs=4k count=2
>>> 2+0 records in
>>> 2+0 records out
>>> 8192 bytes (8.2 kB, 8.0 KiB) copied, 0.000337674 s, 24.3 MB/s
>>>
>>> 2/ As root run:
>>> # ./poisonedShared4k
>>> Mapping 8192 bytes from file FILE
>>> Reading and writing the first 2 pages content:
>>> Read: Read: Wrote: Initial mem page 0
>>> Wrote: Initial mem page 1
>>> Data pages at 0x7f71a19d6000  physically 0x124fb0000
>>> Data pages at 0x7f71a19d7000  physically 0x128ce4000
>>> Poisoning 4k at 0x7f71a19d6000
>>> Signal 7 received
>>>      code 4        Signal code
>>>      addr 0x7f71a19d6000    Memory location
>>>      si_addr_lsb 12
>>> siglongjmp used
>>> Remapping the poisoned page
>>> Reading and writing the first 2 pages content:
>>> Read: Read: Initial mem page 1
>>> Wrote: Rewrite mem page 0
>>> Wrote: Rewrite mem page 1
>>> Data pages at 0x7f71a19d6000  physically 0x10c367000
>>> Data pages at 0x7f71a19d7000  physically 0x128ce4000
>>>
>>>
>>>     ---
>>>
>>> As we can see, this process:
>>> - maps the FILE,
>>> - tries to read and write the beginning of the first 2 pages
>>> - gives their physical addresses
>>> - poison the first page with a madvise(MADV_HWPOISON) call
>>> - shows the SIGBUS signal received and recovers from it
>>> - simply remaps the same page from the file
>>> - tries again to read and write the beginning of the first 2 pages
>>> - gives their physical addresses
>>>
>>
>>
>> Turns out the code will try to truncate the pagecache page using
>> mapping->a_ops->error_remove_folio().
>>
>> That, however, is only implemented on *some* filesystems.
>>
>> Most prominently, it is not implemented on shmem as well.
>>
>>
>> So if you run your test with shmem (e.g., /tmp/FILE), it doesn't work.
> 
> Correct, on tmpfs the test case fails to continue to use the memory area
> and gets a SIGBUS.  And it works with xfs.
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Using fallocate+MADV_DONTNEED seems to work on shmem.
>>
> 
> Our new Qemu code is testing first the fallocate+MADV_DONTNEED procedure
> for standard sized pages (in ram_block_discard_range()) and only folds
> back to the mmap() use if it fails. So maybe my proposal to implement:
> 
> +                    /*
> +                     * Fold back to using mmap(), but it should not
> repair a
> +                     * shared file memory region. In this case we fail.
> +                     */
> +                    if (block->fd >= 0 && qemu_ram_is_shared(block)) {
> +                        error_report("Shared memory poison recovery
> failure addr: "
> +                                     RAM_ADDR_FMT "@" RAM_ADDR_FMT "",
> +                                     length, addr);
> +                        exit(1);
> +                    }
> 
> Could be the right choice.

Right. But then, what about a mmap(MAP_PRIVATE, shmem), where the 
pagecache page is poisoned and needs an explicit fallocate? :)

It's all tricky. I wonder if we should just say "if it's backed by a 
file, and we cannot discard, then mmap() can't fix it reliably".

if (block->fd >= 0) {
	...
}

After all, we don't even expect the fallocate/MADV_DONTNEED to ever fail 
:) So I was also wondering if we could get rid of the mmap(MAP_FIXED) 
completely ... but who knows what older Linux kernels do.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-03 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-10  9:07 [RFC 0/6] hugetlbfs largepage RAS project “William Roche
2024-09-10  9:07 ` [RFC 1/6] accel/kvm: SIGBUS handler should also deal with si_addr_lsb “William Roche
2024-09-10  9:07 ` [RFC 2/6] accel/kvm: Keep track of the HWPoisonPage sizes “William Roche
2024-09-10  9:07 ` [RFC 3/6] system/physmem: Remap memory pages on reset based on the page size “William Roche
2024-09-10  9:07 ` [RFC 4/6] system: Introducing hugetlbfs largepage RAS feature “William Roche
2024-09-10  9:07 ` [RFC 5/6] system/hugetlb_ras: Handle madvise SIGBUS signal on listener “William Roche
2024-09-10  9:07 ` [RFC 6/6] system/hugetlb_ras: Replay lost BUS_MCEERR_AO signals on VM resume “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02 ` [RFC RESEND 0/6] hugetlbfs largepage RAS project “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 1/6] accel/kvm: SIGBUS handler should also deal with si_addr_lsb “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 2/6] accel/kvm: Keep track of the HWPoisonPage sizes “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 3/6] system/physmem: Remap memory pages on reset based on the page size “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 4/6] system: Introducing hugetlbfs largepage RAS feature “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 5/6] system/hugetlb_ras: Handle madvise SIGBUS signal on listener “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 6/6] system/hugetlb_ras: Replay lost BUS_MCEERR_AO signals on VM resume “William Roche
2024-09-10 11:36   ` [RFC RESEND 0/6] hugetlbfs largepage RAS project David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 16:24     ` William Roche
2024-09-11 22:07       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-12 17:07         ` William Roche
2024-09-19 16:52           ` William Roche
2024-10-09 15:45             ` Peter Xu
2024-10-10 20:35               ` William Roche
2024-10-22 21:34               ` [PATCH v1 0/4] hugetlbfs memory HW error fixes “William Roche
2024-10-22 21:35                 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] accel/kvm: SIGBUS handler should also deal with si_addr_lsb “William Roche
2024-10-22 21:35                 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] accel/kvm: Keep track of the HWPoisonPage page_size “William Roche
2024-10-23  7:28                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 23:27                     ` William Roche
2024-10-28 16:42                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-30  1:56                         ` William Roche
2024-11-04 14:10                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 23:30                     ` William Roche
2024-10-22 21:35                 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] system/physmem: Largepage punch hole before reset of memory pages “William Roche
2024-10-23  7:30                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 23:27                     ` William Roche
2024-10-28 17:01                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-30  1:56                         ` William Roche
2024-11-04 13:30                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 10:21                             ` [PATCH v2 0/7] hugetlbfs memory HW error fixes “William Roche
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 1/7] accel/kvm: Keep track of the HWPoisonPage page_size “William Roche
2024-11-12 10:30                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-12 18:17                                   ` William Roche
2024-11-12 21:35                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 2/7] system/physmem: poisoned memory discard on reboot “William Roche
2024-11-12 11:07                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-12 18:17                                   ` William Roche
2024-11-12 22:06                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 3/7] accel/kvm: Report the loss of a large memory page “William Roche
2024-11-12 11:13                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-12 18:17                                   ` William Roche
2024-11-12 22:22                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-15 21:03                                       ` William Roche
2024-11-18  9:45                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 4/7] numa: Introduce and use ram_block_notify_remap() “William Roche
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 5/7] hostmem: Factor out applying settings “William Roche
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 6/7] hostmem: Handle remapping of RAM “William Roche
2024-11-12 13:45                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-12 18:17                                   ` William Roche
2024-11-12 22:24                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 7/7] system/physmem: Memory settings applied on remap notification “William Roche
2024-10-22 21:35                 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] accel/kvm: Report the loss of a large memory page “William Roche
2024-10-28 16:32             ` [RFC RESEND 0/6] hugetlbfs largepage RAS project David Hildenbrand
2024-11-25 14:27         ` [PATCH v3 0/7] hugetlbfs memory HW error fixes “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 1/7] hwpoison_page_list and qemu_ram_remap are based of pages “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 2/7] system/physmem: poisoned memory discard on reboot “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 3/7] accel/kvm: Report the loss of a large memory page “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 4/7] numa: Introduce and use ram_block_notify_remap() “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 5/7] hostmem: Factor out applying settings “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 6/7] hostmem: Handle remapping of RAM “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 7/7] system/physmem: Memory settings applied on remap notification “William Roche
2024-12-02 15:41           ` [PATCH v3 0/7] hugetlbfs memory HW error fixes William Roche
2024-12-02 16:00             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03  0:15               ` William Roche
2024-12-03 14:08                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03 14:39                   ` William Roche
2024-12-03 15:00                     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-12-06 18:26                       ` William Roche
2024-12-09 21:25                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-14 13:45         ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Poisoned memory recovery on reboot “William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 1/7] hwpoison_page_list and qemu_ram_remap are based on pages “William Roche
2025-01-08 21:34             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:56               ` William Roche
2025-01-14 13:56                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 2/7] system/physmem: poisoned memory discard on reboot “William Roche
2025-01-08 21:44             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:56               ` William Roche
2025-01-14 14:00                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:15                   ` William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 3/7] accel/kvm: Report the loss of a large memory page “William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 4/7] numa: Introduce and use ram_block_notify_remap() “William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 5/7] hostmem: Factor out applying settings “William Roche
2025-01-08 21:58             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:56               ` William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 6/7] hostmem: Handle remapping of RAM “William Roche
2025-01-08 21:51             ` [PATCH v4 6/7] c David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:57               ` [PATCH v4 6/7] hostmem: Handle remapping of RAM William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 7/7] system/physmem: Memory settings applied on remap notification “William Roche
2025-01-08 21:53             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:57               ` William Roche
2025-01-14 14:01                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-08 21:22           ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Poisoned memory recovery on reboot David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:55             ` William Roche
2025-01-10 21:13         ` [PATCH v5 0/6] " “William Roche
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 1/6] system/physmem: handle hugetlb correctly in qemu_ram_remap() “William Roche
2025-01-14 14:02             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:16               ` William Roche
2025-01-28 18:41                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 2/6] system/physmem: poisoned memory discard on reboot “William Roche
2025-01-14 14:07             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:16               ` William Roche
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 3/6] accel/kvm: Report the loss of a large memory page “William Roche
2025-01-14 14:09             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:16               ` William Roche
2025-01-28 18:45                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 4/6] numa: Introduce and use ram_block_notify_remap() “William Roche
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 5/6] hostmem: Factor out applying settings “William Roche
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 6/6] hostmem: Handle remapping of RAM “William Roche
2025-01-14 14:11             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:16               ` William Roche
2025-01-14 14:12           ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Poisoned memory recovery on reboot David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:16             ` William Roche

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