From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
Chenyi Qiang <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
Juraj Marcin <jmarcin@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] hostmem: Support in-place guest memfd to back a VM
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 17:01:44 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe713fb6-56db-4080-b03d-a0c36952ee22@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251023185913.2923322-9-peterx@redhat.com>
On 10/24/2025 2:59 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> Host backends supports guest-memfd now by detecting whether it's a
> confidential VM. There's no way to choose it yet from the memory level to
> use it in-place. If we use guest-memfd, it so far always implies we need
> two layers of memory backends, while the guest-memfd only provides the
> private set of pages.
>
> This patch introduces a way so that QEMU can consume guest memfd as the
> only source of memory to back the object (aka, in place), rather than
> having another backend supporting the pages converted to shared.
>
> To use the in-place guest-memfd, one can add a memfd object with:
>
> -object memory-backend-memfd,guest-memfd=on,share=on
>
> Note that share=on is required with in-place guest_memfd.
First, I'm not sure "in-place" is the proper wording here. At first
glance on the series, I thought it's something related to "in-place"
page conversion. After reading a bit, I really that it is enabling guest
memfd with mmap support to serve as normal memory backend.
Second, my POC implementation chose to implement a separate and specific
memory-backend type "memory-backend-guest-memfd". Your approach to add
an option of "guest-memfd" to memory-backend-memfd looks OK to me and it
requires less code. But I think we need to explicitly error out to users
when they set "guest_memfd" to on with unsupported properties
configured, e.g., "hugetlb", "hugetlbsize", and "seal".
Third, the intended usage of gmem with mmap from KVM/kernel's
perspective is userspace configures the meomry slot by passing the gmem
fd to @guest_memfd and @guest_memfd of struct
kvm_userspace_memory_region2 instead of passing the user address
returned by mmap of the fd to @userspace_addr return mmap() as this
patch does. Surely the usage of this path works. But when QEMU is going
to support in-place conversion of gmem, we has to pass the @guest_memfd.
Well, this is no issue now and we can handle it in the future when needed.
> Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> ---
> qapi/qom.json | 6 +++-
> backends/hostmem-memfd.c | 66 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> 2 files changed, 67 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/qapi/qom.json b/qapi/qom.json
> index 830cb2ffe7..6b090fe9a0 100644
> --- a/qapi/qom.json
> +++ b/qapi/qom.json
> @@ -764,13 +764,17 @@
> # @seal: if true, create a sealed-file, which will block further
> # resizing of the memory (default: true)
> #
> +# @guest-memfd: if true, use guest-memfd to back the memory region.
> +# (default: false, since: 10.2)
> +#
> # Since: 2.12
> ##
> { 'struct': 'MemoryBackendMemfdProperties',
> 'base': 'MemoryBackendProperties',
> 'data': { '*hugetlb': 'bool',
> '*hugetlbsize': 'size',
> - '*seal': 'bool' },
> + '*seal': 'bool',
> + '*guest-memfd': 'bool' },
> 'if': 'CONFIG_LINUX' }
>
> ##
> diff --git a/backends/hostmem-memfd.c b/backends/hostmem-memfd.c
> index ea93f034e4..1fa16c1e1d 100644
> --- a/backends/hostmem-memfd.c
> +++ b/backends/hostmem-memfd.c
> @@ -18,6 +18,8 @@
> #include "qapi/error.h"
> #include "qom/object.h"
> #include "migration/cpr.h"
> +#include "system/kvm.h"
> +#include <linux/kvm.h>
>
> OBJECT_DECLARE_SIMPLE_TYPE(HostMemoryBackendMemfd, MEMORY_BACKEND_MEMFD)
>
> @@ -28,6 +30,13 @@ struct HostMemoryBackendMemfd {
> bool hugetlb;
> uint64_t hugetlbsize;
> bool seal;
> + /*
> + * NOTE: this differs from HostMemoryBackend's guest_memfd_private,
> + * which represents a internally private guest-memfd that only backs
> + * private pages. Instead, this flag marks the memory backend will
> + * 100% use the guest-memfd pages in-place.
> + */
> + bool guest_memfd;
> };
>
> static bool
> @@ -47,10 +56,40 @@ memfd_backend_memory_alloc(HostMemoryBackend *backend, Error **errp)
> goto have_fd;
> }
>
> - fd = qemu_memfd_create(TYPE_MEMORY_BACKEND_MEMFD, backend->size,
> - m->hugetlb, m->hugetlbsize, m->seal ?
> - F_SEAL_GROW | F_SEAL_SHRINK | F_SEAL_SEAL : 0,
> - errp);
> + if (m->guest_memfd) {
> + /* User choose to use in-place guest-memfd to back the VM.. */
> + if (!backend->share) {
> + error_setg(errp, "In-place guest-memfd must be used with share=on");
> + return false;
> + }
> +
> + /*
> + * This is the request to have a guest-memfd to back private pages.
> + * In-place guest-memfd doesn't work like that. Disable it for now
> + * to make it simple, so that each memory backend can only have
> + * guest-memfd either as private, or fully shared.
> + */
> + if (backend->guest_memfd_private) {
> + error_setg(errp, "In-place guest-memfd cannot be used with another "
> + "private guest-memfd");
> + return false;
> + }
Add kvm_enabled() here, otherwise the following calling of
kvm_create_guest_memfd() emits confusing information when accelerator is
not configured as KVM, e.g., -machine q35,accel=tcg
qemu-system-x86: KVM does not support guest_memfd
> + /* TODO: add huge page support */
> + fd = kvm_create_guest_memfd(backend->size,
> + GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_MMAP |
> + GUEST_MEMFD_FLAG_INIT_SHARED,
> + errp);
> + if (fd < 0) {
> + return false;
> + }
> + } else {
> + fd = qemu_memfd_create(TYPE_MEMORY_BACKEND_MEMFD, backend->size,
> + m->hugetlb, m->hugetlbsize, m->seal ?
> + F_SEAL_GROW | F_SEAL_SHRINK | F_SEAL_SEAL : 0,
> + errp);
> + }
> +
> if (fd == -1) {
> return false;
> }
> @@ -65,6 +104,18 @@ have_fd:
> backend->size, ram_flags, fd, 0, errp);
> }
>
> +static bool
> +memfd_backend_get_guest_memfd(Object *o, Error **errp)
> +{
> + return MEMORY_BACKEND_MEMFD(o)->guest_memfd;
> +}
> +
> +static void
> +memfd_backend_set_guest_memfd(Object *o, bool value, Error **errp)
> +{
> + MEMORY_BACKEND_MEMFD(o)->guest_memfd = value;
> +}
> +
> static bool
> memfd_backend_get_hugetlb(Object *o, Error **errp)
> {
> @@ -152,6 +203,13 @@ memfd_backend_class_init(ObjectClass *oc, const void *data)
> object_class_property_set_description(oc, "hugetlbsize",
> "Huge pages size (ex: 2M, 1G)");
> }
> +
> + object_class_property_add_bool(oc, "guest-memfd",
> + memfd_backend_get_guest_memfd,
> + memfd_backend_set_guest_memfd);
> + object_class_property_set_description(oc, "guest-memfd",
> + "Use guest memfd");
> +
> object_class_property_add_bool(oc, "seal",
> memfd_backend_get_seal,
> memfd_backend_set_seal);
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-24 9:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-23 18:59 [PATCH 0/8] KVM/hostmem: Support in-place guest-memfd as VM backends Peter Xu
2025-10-23 18:59 ` [PATCH 1/8] linux-headers: Update to v6.18-rc2 Peter Xu
2025-10-23 18:59 ` [PATCH 2/8] kvm: Allow kvm_guest_memfd_supported for non-private use case Peter Xu
2025-10-24 2:30 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-10-23 18:59 ` [PATCH 3/8] kvm: Detect guest-memfd flags supported Peter Xu
2025-10-24 3:52 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-10-23 18:59 ` [PATCH 4/8] memory: Rename RAM_GUEST_MEMFD to RAM_GUEST_MEMFD_PRIVATE Peter Xu
2025-10-24 9:17 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-10-23 18:59 ` [PATCH 5/8] memory: Rename memory_region_has_guest_memfd() to *_private() Peter Xu
2025-10-23 18:59 ` [PATCH 6/8] ramblock: Rename guest_memfd to guest_memfd_private Peter Xu
2025-10-23 18:59 ` [PATCH 7/8] hostmem: " Peter Xu
2025-10-23 18:59 ` [PATCH 8/8] hostmem: Support in-place guest memfd to back a VM Peter Xu
2025-10-24 9:01 ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
2025-10-24 15:22 ` Peter Xu
2025-10-27 5:24 ` Xiaoyao Li
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