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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daude <philmd@linaro.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 01/16] machine: anon-alloc option
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 16:09:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe86f33f-4d34-48e6-be9e-efe6f71b5784@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zy4pHEY8jBLfJmBO@x1n>

On 08.11.24 16:07, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 08, 2024 at 03:54:13PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> Likely AUX is everything that is "neither explicitly specified by the user nor
>> very special RAM"
>>
>> So I think hw/misc/ivshmem.c would also not count as "aux", and similarly
>> hw/remote/memory.c; both use memory_region_init_ram_from_fd(share=on).
>>
>> memory_region_init_ram_ptr/memory_region_init_ram_device_ptr are similarly
>> special: we cannot possibly turn them SHARED. But that's also what your code
>> already handled.
>>
>> So maybe, really everything is AUX ram, except
>> * Using memory_region_init_ram_from_fd()/
>>    memory_region_init_ram_from_file() users.
>> * Using memory_region_init_ram_ptr / memory_region_init_ram_device_ptr
>> * Created via memory backends
>>
>>
>> Note that hw/m68k/next-cube.c is one odd RAM_SHARED user. I don't know why
>> it uses RAM_SHARED to get anonymous shared RAM. Likely a mistake when that
>> code was introduced.
>>
>> CCing Thomas.
>>
>> commit 956a78118bfc7fa512b03cbe8a77b9384c6d89f4
>> Author: Thomas Huth <huth@tuxfamily.org>
>> Date:   Sat Jun 30 08:45:25 2018 +0200
>>
>>      m68k: Add NeXTcube machine
>>      It is still quite incomplete (no SCSI, no floppy emulation, no network,
>>      etc.), but the firmware already shows up the debug monitor prompt in the
>>      framebuffer display, so at least the very basics are already working.
>>      This code has been taken from Bryce Lanham's GSoC 2011 NeXT branch at
>>       https://github.com/blanham/qemu-NeXT/blob/next-cube/hw/next-cube.c
>>      and altered quite a bit to fit the latest interface and coding conventions
>>      of the current QEMU.
> 
> This might also imply that our current RAM_SHARED is already not crystal
> clear on when to use, not to mention RAM_AUX if to be introduced..

Likely not. When the code was introduced we used magic boolean 
parameters and likely "true" was set by accident.

There are not that many RAM_SHARED users at all ...

Anyhow ....

  Please
> see my other email, trying to define RAM_SHARED properly.
> 
> IIUC after we can properly define RAM_SHARED, then we don't need AUX, and
> everything will be crystal clear.

I think I still prefer RAM_NO_AUX, but I'll leave it to you and Steven 
to figure out, it's been way to many emails at this point :)

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-08 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-01 13:47 [PATCH V3 00/16] Live update: cpr-transfer Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 01/16] machine: anon-alloc option Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 14:06   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-04 10:39   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 10:45     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 17:38     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-04 19:51       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 20:14         ` Peter Xu
2024-11-04 20:17           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 20:41             ` Peter Xu
2024-11-04 20:15         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-04 20:56           ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-04 21:36             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-06 20:12               ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-06 20:41                 ` Peter Xu
2024-11-06 20:59                   ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-06 21:21                     ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 14:03                       ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 13:05                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 14:04                       ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 16:19                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 18:13                           ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 16:32                         ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 16:38                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 17:48                             ` Peter Xu
2024-11-07 13:23                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 16:02                   ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-07 16:26                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 16:40                       ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 11:31                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 13:43                           ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 14:14                             ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 14:32                               ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 14:18                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 15:01                               ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 13:56                           ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 14:20                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 14:37                               ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-08 14:54                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-08 15:07                                   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-08 15:09                                     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-11-08 15:15                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 02/16] migration: cpr-state Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 20:36   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 03/16] physmem: preserve ram blocks for cpr Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 04/16] hostmem-memfd: preserve " Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 05/16] migration: SCM_RIGHTS for QEMUFile Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 20:54   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:34     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 06/16] migration: VMSTATE_FD Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 20:55   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 07/16] migration: cpr-transfer save and load Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 08/16] migration: cpr-uri parameter Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 09/16] migration: cpr-uri option Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 10/16] migration: split qmp_migrate Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 21:11   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:33     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 11/16] migration: cpr-transfer mode Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 21:58   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:36     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-14 19:04       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 19:50         ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 20:16           ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 20:32             ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 20:51               ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 21:03                 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 21:29                   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 21:41                     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-19 21:48                       ` Peter Xu
2024-11-19 21:51                         ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-20  9:38               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-20 16:12                 ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-20 16:26                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 12/16] tests/migration-test: memory_backend Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 22:19   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 13/16] tests/qtest: defer connection Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 22:36   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-14 18:45     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-13 22:53   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:31     ` Steven Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 14/16] tests/migration-test: " Steve Sistare
2024-11-14 12:46   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 15/16] migration-test: cpr-transfer Steve Sistare
2024-11-01 13:47 ` [PATCH V3 16/16] migration: cpr-transfer documentation Steve Sistare
2024-11-13 22:02   ` Peter Xu
2024-11-14 18:31     ` Steven Sistare

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