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From: Avi Kivity <avi.kivity@gmail.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>, Li Qiang <liq3ea@gmail.com>
Cc: Qemu Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: Questions about the real mode in kvm/qemu
Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 01:10:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff5ba70d-f87e-5a79-58e5-19f2306e8946@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23789310-35fb-8c93-44f4-532bcd34007d@redhat.com>

On 9/26/19 12:18 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 26/09/19 10:59, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
>> If you mean to ask if there is a way to let guest access use no
>> paging at all, that is access host physical addresses directly, then
>> indeed there is no way, since regular non 'unrestricted guest' mode
>> required both protected mode and paging, and 'unrestricted guest'
>> requires EPT. Academically speaking it is of course possible to
>> create paging tables that are 1:1...
> Not so academically, it's exactly what KVM does.  However, indeed it
> would also be possible to switch out of EPT mode when CR0.PG=0.  I'm not
> sure why it was done this way, maybe when the code was written it was
> simpler to use the identity map.
>
> Let's see if Avi is listening... :)


I think it was just simpler for the people who implemented it at the 
time. Switching out of EPT would have been a better solution as it would 
no longer require allocating guest physical address space with the few 
warts that requires.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-09-28 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-26  7:52 Questions about the real mode in kvm/qemu Li Qiang
2019-09-26  8:31 ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-26  8:52   ` Li Qiang
2019-09-26  8:59     ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-26  9:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-26  9:24         ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-26  9:33           ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-26  9:41             ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-26 10:00               ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-26 10:03                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-28 22:10         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2019-09-29  7:39         ` Li Qiang
2019-09-26  9:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-26  9:35   ` Maxim Levitsky
2019-09-26  9:35   ` Li Qiang
2019-09-26  9:53     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-26 11:47       ` Li Qiang

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