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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 00/10]: QError v4
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:13:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <he1dgp$m8l$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m33a4bes1c.fsf@crossbow.pond.sub.org>


> 2. It falls short of the requirement that clients can reasonably
>     classify errors they don't know.

True.  (Though adding a classification mechanism can be done later once 
we have an idea of what errors are there at all).

> 3. It falls short of the requirement that clients can easily present a
>     human-readable error description to their human users, regardless of
>     whether they know the error or not.

That's true.  I would definitely have the interpolated desc field go on 
the wire too, as part of the JSON form of QError.

> If I understand Dan correctly, machine-readable error code +
> human-readable description is just fine, as long as the error code is
> reasonably specific and the description is precise and complete.  Have
> we heard anything else from client developers?

Then (except for the asynchronicity) the current qemu monitor protocol 
is also just fine, including the fact that we send migrate and get 
m\rmi\rmig\rmigr etc. back on the socket.

"error while creating snapshot on '%s'" may be easy to parse, but 
looking at a dictionary field in { "filename" : "blah.img" } is easier, 
and at the same time solves issues with escaping weird characters in the 
file name.

> * The crucial question for the client isn't "what exactly went wrong".
>    It is "how should I handle this error".  Answering that question
>    should be easy (say, check the error code).  Figuring out what went
>    wrong should still be possible for a human operator of the client.

The same error can be handled in a different way depending on the 
situation.  A missing image is in general a fatal error, but maybe 
another client could create images on the fly.

> Based on what I've learned about client requirements so far, I figure
> that solution is "easily classified error code + human-readable
> description".

How would you classify the error code?  By subsystem or by (for example) 
severity or anything else?  Does QEMU have subsystems that are 
well-identified enough to be carved in stone in QError?  (All genuine 
questions.  I have no idea).

Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-18 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-17 19:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10]: QError v4 Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-17 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] QJSON: Introduce qobject_from_jsonv() Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-17 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] QString: Introduce qstring_append_chr() Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-17 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] QString: Introduce qstring_append_int() Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-17 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] QString: Introduce qstring_from_substr() Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-17 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] utests: Add qstring_append_chr() unit-test Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-17 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] utests: Add qstring_from_substr() unit-test Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-17 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] Introduce QError Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-18 15:16   ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-18 17:23     ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-19  8:42       ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-19 12:59         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-18 18:14   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-18 19:58     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-18 20:13       ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-17 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] monitor: QError support Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-18 15:16   ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-18 17:29     ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-18 18:16   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-17 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] qdev: Use QError for 'device not found' error Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-18 15:17   ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-18 17:32     ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-20  7:23     ` Amit Shah
2009-11-17 19:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] monitor: do_info_balloon(): use QError Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-18 15:17   ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-18 15:58     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-18 18:10       ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-18 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10]: QError v4 Markus Armbruster
2009-11-18 18:08   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-19  2:36     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-20 15:56       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-20 16:20         ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-20 16:27           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-20 17:57             ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-20 17:29         ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-20 17:37           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-19 10:11     ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-20 16:13       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-20 18:47         ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-20 19:04           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-21 10:02             ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-22 16:08               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 13:06                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-23 13:11                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 13:34                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-23 13:50                       ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-24 11:55                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-24 12:13                           ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-23 16:08                 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-23 12:42               ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-11-23 16:15                 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-11-18 18:13   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2009-11-19 10:25     ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2009-11-19 13:01       ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-19 14:11         ` Markus Armbruster

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