From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:22:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <hec6i6$j3r$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B095D86.700@codemonkey.ws>
> I don't see how this fixes anything. If you used feature bits, how do
> you migrate from a version that has a feature bit that an older version
> doesn't know about? Do you just ignore it?
I'd go with chunk instead of feature bits, specifying them like in the
PNG specification:
Each chunk consists of four parts:
Length
A 4-byte unsigned integer giving the number of bytes in the
chunk's data field. The length counts only the data field, not
itself, the chunk type code, or the CRC. Zero is a valid
length. Although encoders and decoders should treat the length
as unsigned, its value must not exceed (2^31)-1 bytes.
Chunk Type
A 4-byte chunk type code. For convenience in description and
in examining PNG files, type codes are restricted to consist of
uppercase and lowercase ASCII letters (A-Z and a-z, or 65-90
and 97-122 decimal). [...] Four bits of the type code,
namely bit 5 (value 32) of each byte, are used to convey chunk
properties. The property bits are an inherent part of
the chunk name, and hence are fixed for any chunk type.
The semantics of the property bits are:
Ancillary bit: bit 5 of first byte
0 (uppercase) = critical, 1 (lowercase) = ancillary.
Chunks that are not strictly necessary in order to
meaningfully display the contents of the file are known as
"ancillary" chunks. [Mandatory chunks may still be useful
to QEMU, for example there could be a "PCI" chunk type].
Private bit: bit 5 of second byte
0 (uppercase) = public, 1 (lowercase) = private.
A public chunk is one that is part of the PNG specification
or is registered in the list of PNG special-purpose public
chunk types. Applications can also define private
(unregistered) chunks for their own purposes. [This could
mean that only savannah qemu.git can define public chunks.]
Reserved bit: bit 5 of third byte
Must be 0 (uppercase) in files conforming to this version of
PNG.
The significance of the case of the third letter of the
chunk name is reserved for possible future expansion.
Safe-to-copy bit: bit 5 of fourth byte
0 (uppercase) = unsafe to copy, 1 (lowercase) = safe to
copy. [Would not matter for QEMU, I guess].
Chunk Data
The data bytes appropriate to the chunk type, if any. This
field can be of zero length.
CRC
A 4-byte CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Check) calculated on the
preceding bytes in the chunk, including the chunk type code and
chunk data fields, but not including the length field. The CRC
is always present, even for chunks containing no data.
> Migration needs to be conservative. There should be only two possible
> outcomes: 1) a successful live migration or 2) graceful failure with the
> source VM still running correctly. Silently ignoring things that could
> affect the guests behavior means that it's possible that after failure,
> the guest will fail in an unexpected way.
It's up to the source to decide what information is extra. For example,
the state of a RNG emulation is nice-to-have, but as long as it is
initialized from another random source on the destination you shouldn't
care.
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-22 20:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-22 15:03 [Qemu-devel] Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts Dor Laor
2009-11-22 15:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-22 20:22 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2009-11-23 2:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 8:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23 13:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 8:26 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 9:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23 9:31 ` Gleb Natapov
[not found] ` <m3einp4e7c.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 12:37 ` Gleb Natapov
[not found] ` <m3iqd14edf.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 12:36 ` Gleb Natapov
[not found] ` <m3r5rpwcww.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 14:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 14:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 14:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 15:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 15:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23 15:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 16:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 16:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 16:19 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <m33a45s009.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 16:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 16:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 13:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 13:01 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <m3vdh1wd0n.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 14:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:21 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 16:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 17:08 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 18:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 19:24 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 19:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 21:21 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-24 11:00 ` Dor Laor
[not found] ` <m3y6lxqkpv.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 16:44 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <m3zl6db11z.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 18:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 20:24 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-24 13:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 13:51 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 14:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23 15:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:37 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 15:02 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 15:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 14:26 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 14:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 14:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 16:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <m3skc2r66t.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-25 16:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:35 ` Paul Brook
2009-11-24 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2009-11-24 14:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 17:06 ` Blue Swirl
2009-11-24 17:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 17:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-24 18:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 18:56 ` Blue Swirl
2009-11-24 19:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 18:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-24 19:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 20:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <m3my2ct2qe.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-24 17:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-24 13:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 13:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 12:15 ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-23 13:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 14:13 ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 14:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 14:20 ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 14:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 13:42 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 13:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 14:10 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 14:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 14:52 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 18:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-25 13:36 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 13:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 13:59 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 14:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 14:53 ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-25 15:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 10:39 ` Dor Laor
2009-11-24 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 14:21 ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 14:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 16:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 9:30 ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-25 9:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 13:36 ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 13:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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