From: David Edmondson <dme@dme.org>
To: Zheng Chuan <zhengchuan@huawei.com>,
quintela@redhat.com, eblake@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
berrange@redhat.com
Cc: zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
xiexiangyou@huawei.com, alex.chen@huawei.com,
ann.zhuangyanying@huawei.com, fangying1@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/12] migration/dirtyrate: Implement qmp_cal_dirty_rate()/qmp_get_dirty_rate() function
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 16:36:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m23648je2a.fsf@dme.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5e3fc626-531a-4383-2f61-f274e2c1357a@huawei.com>
On Thursday, 2020-08-27 at 22:47:15 +08, Zheng Chuan wrote:
> On 2020/8/27 21:07, David Edmondson wrote:
>> On Thursday, 2020-08-27 at 20:55:51 +08, Zheng Chuan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2020/8/27 19:58, David Edmondson wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 2020-08-27 at 17:34:13 +08, Zheng Chuan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> + /*
>>>>>>> + * Only support query once for each calculation,
>>>>>>> + * reset as DIRTY_RATE_STATUS_UNSTARTED after query
>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>> + (void)dirtyrate_set_state(&CalculatingState, CalculatingState,
>>>>>>> + DIRTY_RATE_STATUS_UNSTARTED);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a reason for this restriction? Removing it would require
>>>>>> clarifying the state model, I suppose.
>>>>>>
>>>>> We only support query once for each calculation.
>>>>> Otherwise, it could always query dirtyrate, but maybe the dirtyrate is calculated
>>>>> long time ago.
>>>>
>>>> There's nothing in the current interface that prevents this from being
>>>> the case already - the caller could initiate a 1 second sample, then
>>>> wait 24 hours to query the result.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously this would generally be regarded as "d'oh - don't do that",
>>>> but the same argument would apply if the caller is allowed to query the
>>>> results multiple times.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps a complete solution would be to include information about the
>>>> sample period with the result. The caller could then determine whether
>>>> the sample is of adequate quality (sufficiently recent, taken over a
>>>> sufficiently long time period) for its' intended use.
>>>>
>>> You mean add timestamp when i calculate?
>>
>> You already have a timestamp, though I'm not sure if it is one that is
>> appropriate to report to a user.
>>
>> I was thinking that you would include both the start time and duration
>> of the sample in the output of the query-dirty-rate QMP command, as well
>> as the dirty rate itself. That way the caller can make a decision about
>> whether the data is useful.
>>
> OK, i understand.
> I may add it like this:
> +##
> +{ 'struct': 'DirtyRateInfo',
> + 'data': {'dirty-rate': 'int64',
> + 'status': 'DirtyRateStatus',
> + 'start-timestamp': 'int64',
> + 'calc-time': 'int64'} }
> +
> +##
> the stat-timestamp would be initial_time which gets from qemu_clock_get_ms(QEMU_CLOCK_REALTIME)
> at the beginning of calculation while calc_time is time-duration in microsecond.
The calc-time reported here should be in the same units as when it is
specified in calc-dirty-rate (seconds for both seems fine).
I suspect that providing the start-timestamp in seconds would also be
fine - it's not obvious that knowing the value in milliseconds adds much
value.
> But i reconsider that, it maybe still need to reset the CalculatingState as DIRTY_RATE_STATUS_UNSTARTED
> here?
>
> Initialization like:
> void qmp_calc_dirty_rate(int64_t calc_time, Error **errp)
> {
> XXXX
>
> if (CalculatingState == DIRTY_RATE_STATUS_MEASURING) {
> return;
> }
>
>
> (void)dirtyrate_set_state(&CalculatingState, CalculatingState,
> DIRTY_RATE_STATUS_UNSTARTED);
> XXXX
> }
>
> It could not prevent concurrent scene which may lead to disorder state:(
It should be possible to initiate measurement when the state is either
UNSTARTED or MEASURED - only MEASURING should rule it out.
>
>
>>> Actually, I do not want make it complicate for qemu code,
>>> maybe it could be left for user to implement both two qmp commands
>>> like in libvirt-api.
>>
>> Sorry, I didn't understand this comment.
>>
>>> On the other hand, it really bother me that we need to reset calculating state
>>> to make sure the state model could be restart in next calculation.
>>>
>>> For now, i put it after query_dirty_rate_info is finished as you see, it should not be a good idea:(
>>>
>>> Maybe it is better to initialize at the beginning of qmp_calc_dirty_rate().
>>>
>>>> dme.
>>>>
>>
>> dme.
>>
dme.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-27 15:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-24 9:14 [PATCH v5 00/12] *** A Method for evaluating dirty page rate *** Chuan Zheng
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] migration/dirtyrate: setup up query-dirtyrate framwork Chuan Zheng
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] migration/dirtyrate: add DirtyRateStatus to denote calculation status Chuan Zheng
2020-08-26 9:22 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] migration/dirtyrate: Add RamlockDirtyInfo to store sampled page info Chuan Zheng
2020-08-26 9:29 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-26 9:40 ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-26 10:03 ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-26 10:33 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-26 10:53 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] migration/dirtyrate: Add dirtyrate statistics series functions Chuan Zheng
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] migration/dirtyrate: move RAMBLOCK_FOREACH_MIGRATABLE into ram.h Chuan Zheng
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] migration/dirtyrate: Record hash results for each sampled page Chuan Zheng
2020-08-26 9:56 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-26 12:30 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-08-26 12:33 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-27 6:28 ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-27 7:11 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] migration/dirtyrate: Compare page hash results for recorded " Chuan Zheng
2020-08-26 10:10 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] migration/dirtyrate: skip sampling ramblock with size below MIN_RAMBLOCK_SIZE Chuan Zheng
2020-08-26 10:12 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] migration/dirtyrate: Implement get_sample_page_period() and block_sample_page_period() Chuan Zheng
2020-08-26 10:17 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-27 8:01 ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-27 8:12 ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-27 8:30 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] migration/dirtyrate: Implement calculate_dirtyrate() function Chuan Zheng
2020-08-26 10:21 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-27 8:16 ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] migration/dirtyrate: Implement qmp_cal_dirty_rate()/qmp_get_dirty_rate() function Chuan Zheng
2020-08-26 10:26 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-27 9:34 ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-27 11:58 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-27 12:55 ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-27 13:07 ` David Edmondson
2020-08-27 14:47 ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-27 15:36 ` David Edmondson [this message]
2020-08-24 9:14 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] migration/dirtyrate: Add trace_calls to make it easier to debug Chuan Zheng
2020-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] *** A Method for evaluating dirty page rate *** no-reply
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-08-25 1:40 Chuan Zheng
2020-08-25 1:40 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] migration/dirtyrate: Implement qmp_cal_dirty_rate()/qmp_get_dirty_rate() function Chuan Zheng
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