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From: David Edmondson <dme@dme.org>
To: Zheng Chuan <zhengchuan@huawei.com>,
	quintela@redhat.com, eblake@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	berrange@redhat.com
Cc: alex.chen@huawei.com, ann.zhuangyanying@huawei.com,
	zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com, xiexiangyou@huawei.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/12] *** A Method for evaluating dirty page rate ***
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2020 11:08:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2k0xfb00i.fsf@dme.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b597768c-eb89-d131-ebf4-5a82bcf1e326@huawei.com>

On Monday, 2020-08-31 at 17:55:39 +08, Zheng Chuan wrote:

> On 2020/8/31 17:05, David Edmondson wrote:
>> Trying to think like a control plane developer and user (of which I am
>> neither) raised some questions about the overall interface provided
>> here. If everyone else is happy with the current interface, then I'll
>> shut up :-)
>> 
>> It seems like it should be possible to query the last measured dirty
>> rate at any time. In particular, it should be possible to query the
>> value before any rate has been measured (either returning an error, or
>> if that is unpalatable perhaps a result with a zero interval to indicate
>> "this data isn't useful"), but also *during* a subsequent measurement
>> period.
>> 
> Hi, Thank you for your review.
>
> For now,
> i. if we query the value before any rate has been measured, it will return unstarted,
>    and dirtyrate will return -1.
> {"return":{"status":"unstarted","dirty-rate":-1,"start-time":0,"calc-time":0},"id":"libvirt-14"}
>
> ii.if we specify the measurement interval like -1 or 61, it will return error
> {"id":"libvirt-13","error":{"class":"GenericError","desc":"calc-time is out of range[1, 60]."}}
>
> iii. We can query the last measured dirty rate at any time now as you expected in last patch version
>      with returning the measurement timestamp and calc-time.
>
> If i have missed some other scenes, please let me know:)

No, I think that you have everything. My aim was to see if other people
agreed with the usage scenarios.

>> That is, the result of the previous measurement should always be
>> available on demand and a measurement becomes "current" when it
>> completes.
>> 
>> Given that we allow the caller to specify the measurement interval, some
>> callers might specify a long period. As only one measurement can be
>> taken at a time, a long running measurement rules out taking a short
>> measurement. That's probably okay, but does lead me to wonder whether
>> the API should include a mechanism allowing the cancellation of an
>> in-progress measurement.
>
> That's why we restrict the maximum time to 60s, i think this is enough and also
> not too long for user to observe the average dirty rate.
> I think it is may a little expensive and hardly used to implement cancellation mechanism.
>
> On the other hand, users could call several times with the measurement interval
> like 1s, to improve its accuracy otherwise observe a long time.

Understood.

dme.
-- 
Modern people tend to dance.


      reply	other threads:[~2020-08-31 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-29  2:52 [PATCH v6 00/12] *** A Method for evaluating dirty page rate *** Chuan Zheng
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 01/12] migration/dirtyrate: setup up query-dirtyrate framwork Chuan Zheng
2020-08-31  8:54   ` David Edmondson
2020-08-31 11:07     ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 02/12] migration/dirtyrate: add DirtyRateStatus to denote calculation status Chuan Zheng
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 03/12] migration/dirtyrate: Add RamblockDirtyInfo to store sampled page info Chuan Zheng
2020-08-31  9:06   ` David Edmondson
2020-08-31  9:07   ` David Edmondson
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 04/12] migration/dirtyrate: Add dirtyrate statistics series functions Chuan Zheng
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 05/12] migration/dirtyrate: move RAMBLOCK_FOREACH_MIGRATABLE into ram.h Chuan Zheng
2020-08-31  9:07   ` David Edmondson
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 06/12] migration/dirtyrate: Record hash results for each sampled page Chuan Zheng
2020-08-31  9:08   ` David Edmondson
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 07/12] migration/dirtyrate: Compare page hash results for recorded " Chuan Zheng
2020-08-31  9:10   ` David Edmondson
2020-08-31 11:10     ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 08/12] migration/dirtyrate: skip sampling ramblock with size below MIN_RAMBLOCK_SIZE Chuan Zheng
2020-08-31  9:12   ` David Edmondson
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 09/12] migration/dirtyrate: Implement set_sample_page_period() and get_sample_page_period() Chuan Zheng
2020-08-31  9:12   ` David Edmondson
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 10/12] migration/dirtyrate: Implement calculate_dirtyrate() function Chuan Zheng
2020-08-31  9:13   ` David Edmondson
2020-08-31 11:24     ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-31 12:01       ` David Edmondson
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 11/12] migration/dirtyrate: Implement qmp_cal_dirty_rate()/qmp_get_dirty_rate() function Chuan Zheng
2020-08-29  2:52 ` [PATCH v6 12/12] migration/dirtyrate: Add trace_calls to make it easier to debug Chuan Zheng
2020-08-31  9:14   ` David Edmondson
2020-08-31  9:05 ` [PATCH v6 00/12] *** A Method for evaluating dirty page rate *** David Edmondson
2020-08-31  9:55   ` Zheng Chuan
2020-08-31 10:08     ` David Edmondson [this message]

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