[Qemu-devel] Windows Server 2003 SP1 problems

[Qemu-devel] Windows Server 2003 SP1 problems

[Info]

Hello

I have tested the installation of our Open Licensed 
Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition as a guest on a WinXP 
SP2 and Gentoo 2005.0 host. I used the CVS version of QEMU 
from 12.4.2005. KQEMU is from Fabrice web site. Here 
follows my experiences.

QEMU    | Installation | Installation
         | Windows 2003 | Service Pack 1
--------+--------------+---------------
SoftMMU | OK           | FAIL 1)
KQEMU   | FAIL 2)      | OK/FAIL 3)

1) During installation of the SP1 I get the error "RUNDLL: 
Error loading C:\WINDOWS\system32\syadm.cpl".

2) During loading the Windows 2003 Setup, QEMU terminate 
with a segmentation fault.

3) If I use the installation done with SoftMMU und install 
the SP1, I don't get the error from 1).

But the big problem is:

As soon as SP1 has been installed and I connect the 
Windows 2003 guest to the windows update server, it 
freezes, mouse and keyboard input stopped. If I wait long 
enough, Windows 2003 restarts it self, telling it has been 
recovered from a server failure. When freezed, the QEMU is 
using 100% CPU time from the host and under Linux host, I 
loose the keyboard output in the console (have to blindly 
exit and login again).

Has anybody successfully installed Windows Server 2003 
with Service Pack 1 ?

Any suggestion ?

Andreas

Re: [Qemu-devel] Windows Server 2003 SP1 problems

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

I'm testing it right now, and I'll report later..

One thing though, with how much RAM did you try to use QEMU? if you
have 512MB on your host (or more), could you retry QEMU with -m 256?

Thanks,
Hetz

On 4/13/05, Info <info@geodb.org> wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I have tested the installation of our Open Licensed
> Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition as a guest on a WinXP
> SP2 and Gentoo 2005.0 host. I used the CVS version of QEMU
> from 12.4.2005. KQEMU is from Fabrice web site. Here
> follows my experiences.
> 
> QEMU    | Installation | Installation
>          | Windows 2003 | Service Pack 1
> --------+--------------+---------------
> SoftMMU | OK           | FAIL 1)
> KQEMU   | FAIL 2)      | OK/FAIL 3)
> 
> 1) During installation of the SP1 I get the error "RUNDLL:
> Error loading C:\WINDOWS\system32\syadm.cpl".
> 
> 2) During loading the Windows 2003 Setup, QEMU terminate
> with a segmentation fault.
> 
> 3) If I use the installation done with SoftMMU und install
> the SP1, I don't get the error from 1).
> 
> But the big problem is:
> 
> As soon as SP1 has been installed and I connect the
> Windows 2003 guest to the windows update server, it
> freezes, mouse and keyboard input stopped. If I wait long
> enough, Windows 2003 restarts it self, telling it has been
> recovered from a server failure. When freezed, the QEMU is
> using 100% CPU time from the host and under Linux host, I
> loose the keyboard output in the console (have to blindly
> exit and login again).
> 
> Has anybody successfully installed Windows Server 2003
> with Service Pack 1 ?
> 
> Any suggestion ?
> 
> Andreas
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Qemu-devel mailing list
> Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
>

Re: [Qemu-devel] Windows Server 2003 SP1 problems

[Info]

Hello Hetz

Thank you for replaying. I assigned 192 MB RAM to the 
guest. It's not a lot, but after the basic install, 
Win2003 use 75 MB of RAM. The "/dev/shm" is reported to be 
256 MB and I have to keep a little bit below. Otherwise, 
I'll have the well know bus error. Will try to change 
"/dev/shm" to 384 MB. Will need to find out how.

Andreas

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:51:41 +0200
  Hetz Ben Hamo <hetzbh@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm testing it right now, and I'll report later..
>
>One thing though, with how much RAM did you try to use 
>QEMU? if you
>have 512MB on your host (or more), could you retry QEMU 
>with -m 256?
>
>Thanks,
>Hetz
>
>On 4/13/05, Info <info@geodb.org> wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>> I have tested the installation of our Open Licensed
>> Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition as a guest on a 
>>WinXP
>> SP2 and Gentoo 2005.0 host. I used the CVS version of 
>>QEMU
>> from 12.4.2005. KQEMU is from Fabrice web site. Here
>> follows my experiences.
>> 
>> QEMU    | Installation | Installation
>>          | Windows 2003 | Service Pack 1
>> --------+--------------+---------------
>> SoftMMU | OK           | FAIL 1)
>> KQEMU   | FAIL 2)      | OK/FAIL 3)
>> 
>> 1) During installation of the SP1 I get the error 
>>"RUNDLL:
>> Error loading C:\WINDOWS\system32\syadm.cpl".
>> 
>> 2) During loading the Windows 2003 Setup, QEMU terminate
>> with a segmentation fault.
>> 
>> 3) If I use the installation done with SoftMMU und 
>>install
>> the SP1, I don't get the error from 1).
>> 
>> But the big problem is:
>> 
>> As soon as SP1 has been installed and I connect the
>> Windows 2003 guest to the windows update server, it
>> freezes, mouse and keyboard input stopped. If I wait 
>>long
>> enough, Windows 2003 restarts it self, telling it has 
>>been
>> recovered from a server failure. When freezed, the QEMU 
>>is
>> using 100% CPU time from the host and under Linux host, 
>>I
>> loose the keyboard output in the console (have to 
>>blindly
>> exit and login again).
>> 
>> Has anybody successfully installed Windows Server 2003
>> with Service Pack 1 ?
>> 
>> Any suggestion ?
>> 
>> Andreas
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Qemu-devel mailing list
>> Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
>> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
>>
>
>
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Windows Server 2003 SP1 problems

[Info]

I tested it with 256 MB RAM for the guest (384 MB 
/dev/shm). It's the same. IE shows the following URL's, 
when the server get unresponsible:

URL:
http://ws03sp1.update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/default.aspx?ln=en-us

Status Bar:
Opening page 
http://ws03sp1.update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/footer.aspx?ln...

Andreas

PS: We have a real server where the windows update works 
fine for win2k3sp1.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:36:59 +0200
  "Info" <info@geodb.org> wrote:
>Hello Hetz
>
>Thank you for replaying. I assigned 192 MB RAM to the 
>guest. It's not a lot, but after the basic install, 
>Win2003 use 75 MB of RAM. The "/dev/shm" is reported to 
>be 256 MB and I have to keep a little bit below. 
>Otherwise, I'll have the well know bus error. Will try to 
>change "/dev/shm" to 384 MB. Will need to find out how.
>
>Andreas
>
>On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:51:41 +0200
>  Hetz Ben Hamo <hetzbh@gmail.com> wrote:
>>I'm testing it right now, and I'll report later..
>>
>>One thing though, with how much RAM did you try to use 
>>QEMU? if you
>>have 512MB on your host (or more), could you retry QEMU 
>>with -m 256?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Hetz
>>
>>On 4/13/05, Info <info@geodb.org> wrote:
>>>Hello
>>>
>>>I have tested the installation of our Open Licensed
>>>Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition as a guest on a 
>>>WinXP
>>>SP2 and Gentoo 2005.0 host. I used the CVS version of 
>>>QEMU
>>>from 12.4.2005. KQEMU is from Fabrice web site. Here
>>>follows my experiences.
>>>
>>>QEMU    | Installation | Installation
>>>         | Windows 2003 | Service Pack 1
>>>--------+--------------+---------------
>>>SoftMMU | OK           | FAIL 1)
>>>KQEMU   | FAIL 2)      | OK/FAIL 3)
>>>
>>>1) During installation of the SP1 I get the error 
>>>"RUNDLL:
>>>Error loading C:\WINDOWS\system32\syadm.cpl".
>>>
>>>2) During loading the Windows 2003 Setup, QEMU terminate
>>>with a segmentation fault.
>>>
>>>3) If I use the installation done with SoftMMU und 
>>>install
>>>the SP1, I don't get the error from 1).
>>>
>>>But the big problem is:
>>>
>>>As soon as SP1 has been installed and I connect the
>>>Windows 2003 guest to the windows update server, it
>>>freezes, mouse and keyboard input stopped. If I wait 
>>>long
>>>enough, Windows 2003 restarts it self, telling it has 
>>>been
>>>recovered from a server failure. When freezed, the QEMU 
>>>is
>>>using 100% CPU time from the host and under Linux host, 
>>>I
>>>loose the keyboard output in the console (have to 
>>>blindly
>>>exit and login again).
>>>
>>>Has anybody successfully installed Windows Server 2003
>>>with Service Pack 1 ?
>>>
>>>Any suggestion ?
>>>
>>>Andreas
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Qemu-devel mailing list
>>>Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
>>>http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
>>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Qemu-devel mailing list
>>Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
>>http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
>
>
>
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Windows Server 2003 SP1 problems

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

Yup, same problem appears here. Just finished install anything and
after launching windows update (after applying SP1), QEMU freezes
(although you can still switch to the QEMU console etc)

Thanks,
Hetz


On 4/13/05, Info <info@geodb.org> wrote:
> I tested it with 256 MB RAM for the guest (384 MB
> /dev/shm). It's the same. IE shows the following URL's,
> when the server get unresponsible:
> 
> URL:
> http://ws03sp1.update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/default.aspx?ln=en-us
> 
> Status Bar:
> Opening page
> http://ws03sp1.update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/footer.aspx?ln...
> 
> Andreas
> 
> PS: We have a real server where the windows update works
> fine for win2k3sp1.
> 
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:36:59 +0200
>   "Info" <info@geodb.org> wrote:
> >Hello Hetz
> >
> >Thank you for replaying. I assigned 192 MB RAM to the
> >guest. It's not a lot, but after the basic install,
> >Win2003 use 75 MB of RAM. The "/dev/shm" is reported to
> >be 256 MB and I have to keep a little bit below.
> >Otherwise, I'll have the well know bus error. Will try to
> >change "/dev/shm" to 384 MB. Will need to find out how.
> >
> >Andreas
> >
> >On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:51:41 +0200
> >  Hetz Ben Hamo <hetzbh@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>I'm testing it right now, and I'll report later..
> >>
> >>One thing though, with how much RAM did you try to use
> >>QEMU? if you
> >>have 512MB on your host (or more), could you retry QEMU
> >>with -m 256?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Hetz
> >>
> >>On 4/13/05, Info <info@geodb.org> wrote:
> >>>Hello
> >>>
> >>>I have tested the installation of our Open Licensed
> >>>Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition as a guest on a
> >>>WinXP
> >>>SP2 and Gentoo 2005.0 host. I used the CVS version of
> >>>QEMU
> >>>from 12.4.2005. KQEMU is from Fabrice web site. Here
> >>>follows my experiences.
> >>>
> >>>QEMU    | Installation | Installation
> >>>         | Windows 2003 | Service Pack 1
> >>>--------+--------------+---------------
> >>>SoftMMU | OK           | FAIL 1)
> >>>KQEMU   | FAIL 2)      | OK/FAIL 3)
> >>>
> >>>1) During installation of the SP1 I get the error
> >>>"RUNDLL:
> >>>Error loading C:\WINDOWS\system32\syadm.cpl".
> >>>
> >>>2) During loading the Windows 2003 Setup, QEMU terminate
> >>>with a segmentation fault.
> >>>
> >>>3) If I use the installation done with SoftMMU und
> >>>install
> >>>the SP1, I don't get the error from 1).
> >>>
> >>>But the big problem is:
> >>>
> >>>As soon as SP1 has been installed and I connect the
> >>>Windows 2003 guest to the windows update server, it
> >>>freezes, mouse and keyboard input stopped. If I wait
> >>>long
> >>>enough, Windows 2003 restarts it self, telling it has
> >>>been
> >>>recovered from a server failure. When freezed, the QEMU
> >>>is
> >>>using 100% CPU time from the host and under Linux host,
> >>>I
> >>>loose the keyboard output in the console (have to
> >>>blindly
> >>>exit and login again).
> >>>
> >>>Has anybody successfully installed Windows Server 2003
> >>>with Service Pack 1 ?
> >>>
> >>>Any suggestion ?
> >>>
> >>>Andreas
> >>>
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>Qemu-devel mailing list
> >>>Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> >>>http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Qemu-devel mailing list
> >>Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> >>http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
> >
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> >Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> >http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
> 
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Windows Server 2003 SP1 problems

[Leonardo E. Reiter]

Did you happen to try this on Intel x86 with KQEMU installed?  We 
noticed that some operations work much better with KQEMU, almost as if 
there were some translation or timing problems with the target-i386 
translator.  It would be interesting to know if KQEMU clears this up.

By the way, we will be doing a lot of testing here shortly with Windows 
2003 Standard and Enterprise servers in just a few more weeks, so we can 
certainly provide lots of test data and feedback, fixes, etc., as well.

- Leo Reiter

Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> Yup, same problem appears here. Just finished install anything and
> after launching windows update (after applying SP1), QEMU freezes
> (although you can still switch to the QEMU console etc)
> 

-- 
Leonardo E. Reiter
Vice President of Engineering

Win4Lin, Inc.
Virtual Computing from Desktop to Data Center
Main: +1 512 339 7979
Fax: +1 512 532 6501
http://www.win4lin.com

RE: [Qemu-devel] Windows Server 2003 SP1 problems

[Andreas Bollhalder]

I have disabled the Windows NX-bit implementation which came with the
SP1 of Win2003. To do this, you have to alter the "boot.ini" entry to
load up Windows. Change "/NoExecute=xxxxx" into
"/NoExecute=AlwaysOff". Unfortunatly, it doesn't help.

I believe, the problem is only the following link (as posted):

http://ws03sp1.update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/footer.aspx?ln=en-us

Without SP1, I can surf this link and it will displayed as it is fine.
Funny only, that Win2003 without SP1 complains about this site is not
a trusted one ;-)

When applied SP1, the small HTML code with JavaScript and CSS
genereated by the "footer.aspx" locksup Win2003.

I'm out of ideas. I think that Windows Server 2003 is currently not
fully supported by QEMU. Without SP1, I also can't install all windows
updates. I don't wonder, if M$ did a special thing, which conflict
with QEMU... they even could loose theyre Win3x source code.

Andreas


> -----Original Message-----
> From: qemu-devel-bounces+bolle=geodb.org@nongnu.org 
> [mailto:qemu-devel-bounces+bolle=geodb.org@nongnu.org] On 
> Behalf Of Hetz Ben Hamo
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:10 PM
> To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Windows Server 2003 SP1 problems
> 
> 
> Yup, same problem appears here. Just finished install anything and
> after launching windows update (after applying SP1), QEMU freezes
> (although you can still switch to the QEMU console etc)
> 
> Thanks,
> Hetz
> 
> 
> On 4/13/05, Info <info@geodb.org> wrote:
> > I tested it with 256 MB RAM for the guest (384 MB
> > /dev/shm). It's the same. IE shows the following URL's,
> > when the server get unresponsible:
> > 
> > URL:
> > 
> http://ws03sp1.update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/default.aspx
> ?ln=en-us
> > 
> > Status Bar:
> > Opening page
> >
http://ws03sp1.update.microsoft.com/windowsupdate/footer.aspx?ln...
> > 
> > Andreas
> > 
> > PS: We have a real server where the windows update works
> > fine for win2k3sp1.
> > 
> > On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:36:59 +0200
> >   "Info" <info@geodb.org> wrote:
> > >Hello Hetz
> > >
> > >Thank you for replaying. I assigned 192 MB RAM to the
> > >guest. It's not a lot, but after the basic install,
> > >Win2003 use 75 MB of RAM. The "/dev/shm" is reported to
> > >be 256 MB and I have to keep a little bit below.
> > >Otherwise, I'll have the well know bus error. Will try to
> > >change "/dev/shm" to 384 MB. Will need to find out how.
> > >
> > >Andreas
> > >
> > >On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:51:41 +0200
> > >  Hetz Ben Hamo <hetzbh@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>I'm testing it right now, and I'll report later..
> > >>
> > >>One thing though, with how much RAM did you try to use
> > >>QEMU? if you
> > >>have 512MB on your host (or more), could you retry QEMU
> > >>with -m 256?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>Hetz
> > >>
> > >>On 4/13/05, Info <info@geodb.org> wrote:
> > >>>Hello
> > >>>
> > >>>I have tested the installation of our Open Licensed
> > >>>Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition as a guest on a
> > >>>WinXP
> > >>>SP2 and Gentoo 2005.0 host. I used the CVS version of
> > >>>QEMU
> > >>>from 12.4.2005. KQEMU is from Fabrice web site. Here
> > >>>follows my experiences.
> > >>>
> > >>>QEMU    | Installation | Installation
> > >>>         | Windows 2003 | Service Pack 1
> > >>>--------+--------------+---------------
> > >>>SoftMMU | OK           | FAIL 1)
> > >>>KQEMU   | FAIL 2)      | OK/FAIL 3)
> > >>>
> > >>>1) During installation of the SP1 I get the error
> > >>>"RUNDLL:
> > >>>Error loading C:\WINDOWS\system32\syadm.cpl".
> > >>>
> > >>>2) During loading the Windows 2003 Setup, QEMU terminate
> > >>>with a segmentation fault.
> > >>>
> > >>>3) If I use the installation done with SoftMMU und
> > >>>install
> > >>>the SP1, I don't get the error from 1).
> > >>>
> > >>>But the big problem is:
> > >>>
> > >>>As soon as SP1 has been installed and I connect the
> > >>>Windows 2003 guest to the windows update server, it
> > >>>freezes, mouse and keyboard input stopped. If I wait
> > >>>long
> > >>>enough, Windows 2003 restarts it self, telling it has
> > >>>been
> > >>>recovered from a server failure. When freezed, the QEMU
> > >>>is
> > >>>using 100% CPU time from the host and under Linux host,
> > >>>I
> > >>>loose the keyboard output in the console (have to
> > >>>blindly
> > >>>exit and login again).
> > >>>
> > >>>Has anybody successfully installed Windows Server 2003
> > >>>with Service Pack 1 ?
> > >>>
> > >>>Any suggestion ?
> > >>>
> > >>>Andreas
> > >>>
> > >>>_______________________________________________
> > >>>Qemu-devel mailing list
> > >>>Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> > >>>http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>_______________________________________________
> > >>Qemu-devel mailing list
> > >>Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> > >>http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Qemu-devel mailing list
> > >Qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> > >http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Windows Server 2003 SP1 problems

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

Leonardo,

I did the Win2003 tests with the following configs:

* With KQEMU
* Without KQEMU
* With the patch that you pointed the link to (the one with the IDE patch)
* CVS checkout

All gives the same results..

Thanks,
Hetz

On 4/13/05, Leonardo E. Reiter <lreiter@win4lin.com> wrote:
> Did you happen to try this on Intel x86 with KQEMU installed?  We
> noticed that some operations work much better with KQEMU, almost as if
> there were some translation or timing problems with the target-i386
> translator.  It would be interesting to know if KQEMU clears this up.
> 
> By the way, we will be doing a lot of testing here shortly with Windows
> 2003 Standard and Enterprise servers in just a few more weeks, so we can
> certainly provide lots of test data and feedback, fixes, etc., as well.
> 
> - Leo Reiter
> 
> Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> > Yup, same problem appears here. Just finished install anything and
> > after launching windows update (after applying SP1), QEMU freezes
> > (although you can still switch to the QEMU console etc)
> >
> 
> --
> Leonardo E. Reiter
> Vice President of Engineering
> 
> Win4Lin, Inc.
> Virtual Computing from Desktop to Data Center
> Main: +1 512 339 7979
> Fax: +1 512 532 6501
> http://www.win4lin.com
> 
> 
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RE: [Qemu-devel] Windows Server 2003 SP1 problems

[Andreas Bollhalder]

I reseached a bit more. Have stripped down the HTML code which freezes
Win2003SP1 when loaded in IE. It seems, that the gradient in the
footer is done by DirectX and this filter function does the freezes.
If someone could find out the name of the DLL where this function is
implemented or have some advice to debug it with gdb. I could do it on
my Gentoo 2005.0 server with or without kqemu.

Andreas

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