From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Zhao Liu" <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
"Manos Pitsidianakis" <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-rust@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 22/22] rust/hpet: Enable lockless IO
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 15:29:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6ed6a959-fe49-4635-9051-b9bbc91dd2e4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251113051937.4017675-23-zhao1.liu@intel.com>
On 11/13/25 06:19, Zhao Liu wrote:
> Enable lockless IO for HPET to allow BQL free MMIO access.
>
> But BQL context is still needed for some cases during MMIO:
> * IRQ handling:
>
> Like C version of HPET did (commit d99041a20328 ("hpet: guard IRQ
> handling with BQL"), BQL context is needed during IRQ handling.
>
> But Rust HPET has an extra reason that InterruptSource is placed in
> BqlCell, which requires BQL context explicitly. (This also shows
> that the BQL limitation in the design of the InterruptSource binding
> is reasonable.)
Thanks, this is helpful. It shows some complications that I honestly
hadn't thought about. So many more things to be precise about, compared
to C... but I have an idea which I'll mention below. :)
> * BqlCell/BqlRefCell access.
>
> Except InterruptSource, HPETState has other BqlCell and BqlRefCell:
> hpet_offset (BqlCell<u64>), rtc_irq_level (BqlCell<u32>) and timers
> ([BqlRefCell<HPETTimer>; HPET_MAX_TIMERS]).
>
> Their data may change during runtime, so the atomic context is
> required.
I have already mentioned HPETTimer in the other email, but I would also
move hpet_offset to HPETRegisters if possible. It doesn't seem hard.
And as an aside, I wonder if you really need to pass MutexGuard and not
&mut HPETRegisters. Once you don't have BQL dependencies, you can just
remove the assert!(bql::is_locked()) without switching to MutexGuard<>.
In the meanwhile, even if they are not perfect (especially due to
migration), I think touching patches 1-19 further is too messy, so I'll
rebase on top of Stefan's tracing patches and push them to rust-next.
Let's start from there and I'll take a look tomorrow maybe on how to fix
migration. Migratable<HPETTimer> looks like a powerful tool for that.
Then the new problem is that we have to figure out a way to handle IRQs.
They are also messy for PL011 compared to the C version, and that will
make it possible to enable lockless IO.
The crazy idea that just came to mind, is a Latched<u32> that is
something like an (AtomicU32, BqlCell<u32>) tuple. Then we set the
individual bits outside the BQL and update IRQs at the end of the MMIO
in a bql::with_guard() block. Maybe if you have some time you can
prototype that for PL011 (even without generics, you could just do
LatchedU32 for a start)?
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-13 14:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-13 5:19 [PATCH 00/22] rust/hpet: Move towards lockless IO, partly Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 01/22] rust/migration: Add Sync implementation for Migratable<> Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 02/22] rust/migration: Fix missing name in the VMSD of Migratable<> Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 03/22] rust/migration: Check name field in VMStateDescriptionBuilder Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 04/22] rust/bql: Add BqlGuard to provide BQL context Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 05/22] rust/bql: Ensure BQL locked early at BqlRefCell borrowing Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 06/22] rust/memory: Add enable_lockless_io binding Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 07/22] rust/hpet: Reduce unnecessary mutable self argument Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 08/22] rust/hpet: Rename HPETRegister to DecodedRegister Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 09/22] rust/hpet: Rename decoded "reg" enumeration to "target" Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 10/22] rust/hpet: Abstract HPETTimerRegisters struct Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 11:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-11-14 4:37 ` Zhao Liu
2025-11-15 7:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 11/22] rust/hpet: Make timer register accessors as methods of HPETTimerRegisters Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 12/22] rust/hpet: Abstract HPETRegisters struct Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 13/22] rust/hpet: Make global register accessors as methods of HPETRegisters Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 14/22] rust/hpet: Borrow HPETState.regs once in HPETState::post_load() Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 15/22] rust/hpet: Explicitly initialize complex fields in init() Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 16/22] rust/hpet: Pass &BqlRefCell<HPETRegisters> as argument during MMIO access Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 17/22] rust/hpet: Maintain HPETTimerRegisters in HPETRegisters Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 18/22] rust/hpet: Borrow BqlRefCell<HPETRegisters> at top level Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 19/22] rust/hpet: Rename hpet_regs variables to regs Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 20/22] rust/hpet: Apply Migratable<> wrapper and ToMigrationState for HPETRegisters Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 21/22] rust/hpet: Replace BqlRefCell<HPETRegisters> with Mutex<HPETRegisters> Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 9:31 ` Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 11:36 ` Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 5:19 ` [PATCH 22/22] rust/hpet: Enable lockless IO Zhao Liu
2025-11-13 14:29 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2025-11-14 6:39 ` Zhao Liu
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