From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-rust@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/14] rust: qemu-api: add bindings to Error
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 21:19:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <97b16175-8d2f-41f9-b305-a532acbad095@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871ps02j8u.fsf@pond.sub.org>
On 6/4/25 07:01, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> This is what your FOO_or_propagate() functions are for.
>
> The rule glosses over a subtle detail: the difference between
> error_setg() and error_propagate() isn't just create a new error vs. use
> an existing one, namely error_setg() makes the precondition violation
> mentioned above a programming error, whereas error_propagate() does not,
> it instead *ignores* the error it's supposed to propagate.
>
> I consider this difference a design mistake. Note that GError avoids
> this mistake: g_error_propagate() requieres the destination to NULL or
> point to NULL. We deviated from GError, because we thought we were
> smarter. We weren't.
>
> Mostly harmless in practice, as behavior is identical for callers that
> satisfy the preconditions.
>
> [...]
>
> So here's the bottom line. We want a Rust function to use C Error
> according to its written rules. Due to a design mistake, C functions
> can behave in two different ways when their caller violates a certain
> precondition, depending on how the function transmits the error to the
> caller. For Rust functions, we can
>
> * Always behave the more common way, i.e. like a C function using
> error_setg() to transmit.
>
> * Always behave the less common way, i.e. like a C function using
> error_propagate() to transmit.
>
> * Sometimes one way, sometimes the other way.
>
> This is actually in order of decreasing personal preference. But what
> do *you* think?
I agree that there are arguments for both. The reason to use
error_setg() is that, even though these functions "propagate" a
qemu_api::Error into a C Error**, the error is born in the Rust callback
and therefore there is no error_setg() anywhere that could check for
non-NULL abort(). There is a bigger risk of triggering
error_propagate()'s weird behavior.
The reason to use error_propagate() is that these functions do look a
lot more like error_propagate() than error_setg(). I'm undecided. I
think I'll keep the error_setg() semantics, which is essentially
assert_eq!(unsafe { *errp }, ptr::null_mut());
followed by calling bindings::error_propagate().
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-04 19:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-30 8:02 [PATCH v2 00/14] rust: bindings for Error Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-30 8:02 ` [PATCH 01/14] subprojects: add the anyhow crate Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-30 8:02 ` [PATCH 02/14] subprojects: add the foreign crate Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-30 8:02 ` [PATCH 03/14] util/error: expose Error definition to Rust code Paolo Bonzini
2025-06-03 3:06 ` Zhao Liu
2025-05-30 8:02 ` [PATCH 04/14] util/error: allow non-NUL-terminated err->src Paolo Bonzini
2025-06-02 10:47 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-30 8:02 ` [PATCH 05/14] util/error: make func optional Paolo Bonzini
2025-06-02 10:52 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-05-30 8:02 ` [PATCH 06/14] rust: qemu-api: add bindings to Error Paolo Bonzini
2025-06-02 13:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-03 9:29 ` Zhao Liu
2025-06-03 10:32 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-03 15:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-06-04 5:01 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-04 19:19 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2025-06-05 6:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-03 15:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-30 8:02 ` [PATCH 07/14] rust: qemu-api: add tests for Error bindings Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-30 8:03 ` [PATCH 08/14] rust: qdev: support returning errors from realize Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-30 8:03 ` [PATCH 09/14] rust/hpet: change type of num_timers to usize Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-30 8:03 ` [PATCH 10/14] hpet: adjust VMState for consistency with Rust version Paolo Bonzini
2025-06-03 3:11 ` Zhao Liu
2025-05-30 8:03 ` [PATCH 11/14] hpet: return errors from realize if properties are incorrect Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-30 8:03 ` [PATCH 12/14] rust/hpet: " Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-30 8:03 ` [PATCH 13/14] rust/hpet: Drop BqlCell wrapper for num_timers Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-30 8:03 ` [PATCH 14/14] docs: update Rust module status Paolo Bonzini
2025-06-03 3:09 ` Zhao Liu
2025-06-02 7:49 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] rust: bindings for Error Markus Armbruster
2025-06-02 9:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-06-03 9:35 ` Zhao Liu
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-06-05 10:15 [PATCH v3 " Paolo Bonzini
2025-06-05 10:15 ` [PATCH 06/14] rust: qemu-api: add bindings to Error Paolo Bonzini
2025-06-05 12:06 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-06-05 13:45 ` Zhao Liu
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