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From: Manos Pitsidianakis <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>
To: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Junjie Mao" <junjie.mao@hotmail.com>,
	"open list:ARM SMMU <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	qemu-rust@nongnu.org, "Dapeng Mi" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>,
	"Chuanxiao Dong" <chuanxiao.dong@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 16/26] memory: Make flatview_do_translate() return a pointer to MemoryRegionSection
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 18:42:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAjaMXaHQs=oKGRGDwpvVCmRH0xLNZZCTvEaeWJ8x0znBCiY7A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aJtgIBgl8JzDsJ1O@intel.com>

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On Tue, 12 Aug 2025, 18:17 Zhao Liu, <zhao1.liu@intel.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 03:57:17PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:57:17 +0200
> > From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: [RFC 16/26] memory: Make flatview_do_translate() return a
> >  pointer to MemoryRegionSection
> >
> > On 8/7/25 14:30, Zhao Liu wrote:
> > > Rust side will use cell::Opaque<> to hide details of C structure, and
> > > this could help avoid the direct operation on C memory from Rust side.
> > >
> > > Therefore, it's necessary to wrap a translation binding and make it
> only
> > > return the pointer to MemoryRegionSection, instead of the copy.
> > >
> > > As the first step, make flatview_do_translate return a pointer to
> > > MemoryRegionSection, so that we can build a wrapper based on it.
> >
> > Independent of Rust, doing the copy as late as possible is good, but
> make it
> > return a "const MemoryRegionSection*" so that there's no risk of
> overwriting
> > data.
>
> Yes, const MemoryRegionSection* is helpful...
>
> > Hopefully this does not show a bigger problem!
>
> ...then we will get `*const bindings::MemoryRegionSection` from
> flatview_translate_section().
>
> This is mainly about how to construct Opaque<T> from `*cont T`:
>
> impl FlatView {
>     fn translate(
>         &self,
>         addr: GuestAddress,
>         len: GuestUsize,
>         is_write: bool,
>     ) -> Option<(&MemoryRegionSection, MemoryRegionAddress, GuestUsize)> {
>         ...
>         let ptr = unsafe {
>             flatview_translate_section(
>                 self.as_mut_ptr(),
>                 addr.raw_value(),
>                 &mut raw_addr,
>                 &mut remain,
>                 is_write,
>                 MEMTXATTRS_UNSPECIFIED,
>             )
>         };
>
>         ...
>
> ------> // Note here, Opaque<>::from_raw() requires *mut T.
>         // And we can definitely convert *cont T to *mut T!
>         let s = unsafe { <FlatView as GuestMemory>::R::from_raw(ptr as
> *mut _) };
>         ...
>     }
>
> But look closer to Opaque<>, it has 2 safe methods: as_mut_ptr() &
> raw_get().
>
> These 2 methods indicate that the T pointed by Qpaque<T> is mutable,
> which has the conflict with the original `*const
> bindings::MemoryRegionSection`.
>
> So from this point, it seems unsafe to use Qpaque<> on this case.
>

Yes, the usual approach is to have a Ref and a RefMut type e.g. Opaque and
OpaqueMut, and the OpaqueMut type can dereference immutably as an Opaque.

See std::cell::{Ref, RefMut} for inspiration.


To address this, I think we need:
>  - rich comments about this MemoryRegionSection is actually immuatble.
>  - modify other C functions to accept `const *MemoryRegionSection` as
>    argument.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks,
> Zhao
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-12 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-07 12:30 [RFC 00/26] rust/memory: Integrate the vm-memory API from rust-vmm Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 01/26] rust/hpet: Fix the error caused by vm-memory Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08  7:27     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 02/26] rust/cargo: Add the support for vm-memory Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 03/26] subprojects: Add thiserror-impl crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 04/26] subprojects: Add thiserror crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 05/26] subprojects: Add winapi-i686-pc-windows-gnu crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 06/26] subprojects: Add winapi-x86_64-pc-windows-gnu crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 07/26] subprojects: Add winapi crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08  7:33     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 08/26] subprojects: Add vm-memory crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 09/26] rust: Add vm-memory in meson Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 10/26] subprojects/vm-memory: Patch vm-memory for QEMU memory backend Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08  8:17     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-08  8:17       ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08  8:51         ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 11/26] rust/cargo: Specify the patched vm-memory crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 12/26] rcu: Make rcu_read_lock & rcu_read_unlock not inline Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:54   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08  8:19     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 13/26] rust: Add RCU bindings Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:29   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-07 13:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-09  7:21       ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-09  9:13         ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-09  9:26           ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-12 10:43             ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-12 10:31       ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 14/26] memory: Expose interfaces about Flatview reference count to Rust side Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 15/26] memory: Rename address_space_lookup_region and expose it " Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 16/26] memory: Make flatview_do_translate() return a pointer to MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:57   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-12 15:39     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-12 15:42       ` Manos Pitsidianakis [this message]
2025-08-13 15:12         ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-12 19:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 15:10         ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 17/26] memory: Add a translation helper to return MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 18/26] memory: Rename flatview_access_allowed() to memory_region_access_allowed() Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:41   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 19/26] memory: Add MemoryRegionSection based misc helpers Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 20/26] memory: Add wrappers of intermediate steps for read/write Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 21/26] memory: Add store/load interfaces for Rust side Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 22/26] rust/memory: Implement vm_memory::GuestMemoryRegion for MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 23/26] rust/memory: Implement vm_memory::GuestMemory for FlatView Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 24/26] rust/memory: Provide AddressSpace bindings Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 14:47     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 25/26] rust/memory: Add binding to check target endian Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:44   ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-13 14:48     ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 26/26] rust/hpet: Use safe binding to access address space Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:42 ` [RFC 00/26] rust/memory: Integrate the vm-memory API from rust-vmm Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 14:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 14:56   ` Zhao Liu

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