From: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
To: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Manos Pitsidianakis" <manos.pitsidianakis@linaro.org>,
"Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Junjie Mao" <junjie.mao@hotmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-rust@nongnu.org,
"Dapeng Mi" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>,
"Chuanxiao Dong" <chuanxiao.dong@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 13/26] rust: Add RCU bindings
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 15:21:47 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJb3C8qbXQ1zx306@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c641dbf2-a2e7-4c44-b231-fc872df1fe69@redhat.com>
Thank you both!!
Please correct me is I'm wrong :).
On Thu, Aug 07, 2025 at 03:38:52PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2025 15:38:52 +0200
> From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFC 13/26] rust: Add RCU bindings
>
> On 8/7/25 14:29, Manos Pitsidianakis wrote:
>
> > > +//! Bindings for `rcu_read_lock` and `rcu_read_unlock`.
> > > +//! More details about RCU in QEMU, please refer docs/devel/rcu.rst.
> > > +
> >
> > How about a RAII guard type? e.g. RCUGuard and runs `rcu_read_unlock` on Drop.
>
> Clippy says Rcu not RCU. :)
>
> You're right, not just because it's nice but also because it bounds the
> dereference of the FlatView. Something like this build on top of the guard
> object:
>
> pub struct RcuCell<T> {
> data: AtomicPtr<T>
> }
>
> impl<T> RcuCell {
> pub fn raw_get(&self) -> *mut T {
> self.data.load(Ordering::Acquire)
I understand this tries to provide an equivalent to qatomic_rcu_read.
Ordering::Acquire is especially necessary, because at C side,
qatomic_rcu_read has a barrier.
> }
>
> pub fn get<'g>(&self, _: &'g RcuGuard) -> Option<&'g T> {
> unsafe {
> self.raw_get().as_ref()
> }
> }
> }
>
> Using this is a bit ugly, because you need transmute, but it's isolated:
>
> impl AddressSpace {
> pub fn get_flatview(&self, rcu: &'g Guard) -> &'g FlatView {
IIUC, this lifetime is using the "branded type" pattern as ParentInit.
> let flatp = unsafe {
> std::mem::transmute::<&*mut FlatView, &RcuCell<FlatView>>(
> &self.0.as_ptr().current_map)
> };
> flatp.get(rcu)
> }
> }
>
> impl GuestAddressSpace for AddressSpace {
> fn memory(&self) -> Self::T {
> let rcu = RcuGuard::guard();
> FlatViewRefGuard::new(self.get_flatview(rcu))
> }
> }
With RcuGuard, then we are actually calling qatomic_rcu_read in the
rcu critical section, which greatly enhances safety. This is a good
design for RCU binding.
> > Destructors are not guaranteed to run or run only once, but the former
> > should happen when things go wrong e.g. crashes/aborts. You can add a
> > flag in the RCUGuard to make sure Drop runs unlock only once (since it
> > takes &mut and not ownership)
>
> Yeah I think many things would go wrong if Arc could run its drop
> implementation more than once.
Good point.
In addition, about rcu_read_lock_held(), I thought at C side, there're
so many comments are saying "Called within RCU critical section" but
without any check.
So I wonder whether we should do some check for RCU critical section,
just like bql check via `assert!(bql_locked())`. Maybe we can have a
Rcu debug feature to cover all these checks.
Thanks,
Zhao
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-09 7:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-07 12:30 [RFC 00/26] rust/memory: Integrate the vm-memory API from rust-vmm Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 01/26] rust/hpet: Fix the error caused by vm-memory Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 7:27 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 02/26] rust/cargo: Add the support for vm-memory Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 03/26] subprojects: Add thiserror-impl crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 04/26] subprojects: Add thiserror crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 05/26] subprojects: Add winapi-i686-pc-windows-gnu crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 06/26] subprojects: Add winapi-x86_64-pc-windows-gnu crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 07/26] subprojects: Add winapi crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 7:33 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 08/26] subprojects: Add vm-memory crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 09/26] rust: Add vm-memory in meson Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 10/26] subprojects/vm-memory: Patch vm-memory for QEMU memory backend Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:59 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 8:17 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-08 8:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 8:51 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 11/26] rust/cargo: Specify the patched vm-memory crate Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 12/26] rcu: Make rcu_read_lock & rcu_read_unlock not inline Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 8:19 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 13/26] rust: Add RCU bindings Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:29 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-07 13:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-09 7:21 ` Zhao Liu [this message]
2025-08-09 9:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-09 9:26 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-12 10:43 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-12 10:31 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 14/26] memory: Expose interfaces about Flatview reference count to Rust side Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 15/26] memory: Rename address_space_lookup_region and expose it " Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 16/26] memory: Make flatview_do_translate() return a pointer to MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-12 15:39 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-12 15:42 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-13 15:12 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-12 19:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 15:10 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 17/26] memory: Add a translation helper to return MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 18/26] memory: Rename flatview_access_allowed() to memory_region_access_allowed() Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:41 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 19/26] memory: Add MemoryRegionSection based misc helpers Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 20/26] memory: Add wrappers of intermediate steps for read/write Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 21/26] memory: Add store/load interfaces for Rust side Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 22/26] rust/memory: Implement vm_memory::GuestMemoryRegion for MemoryRegionSection Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 23/26] rust/memory: Implement vm_memory::GuestMemory for FlatView Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 24/26] rust/memory: Provide AddressSpace bindings Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 13:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 14:47 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 25/26] rust/memory: Add binding to check target endian Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:44 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2025-08-13 14:48 ` Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:30 ` [RFC 26/26] rust/hpet: Use safe binding to access address space Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 12:42 ` [RFC 00/26] rust/memory: Integrate the vm-memory API from rust-vmm Zhao Liu
2025-08-07 14:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-13 14:56 ` Zhao Liu
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