From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@mailo.com>,
"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
"Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy" <vsementsov@yandex-team.ru>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dave@treblig.org>,
"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
"Akihiko Odaki" <odaki@rsg.ci.i.u-tokyo.ac.jp>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
"Sana Sharma" <sansshar@redhat.com>,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
"Juraj Marcin" <jmarcin@redhat.com>,
qemu-rust@nongnu.org, "Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.caveayland@nutanix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/10] migration: Switch to TYPE_OBJECT with object properties
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 14:51:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aimyK31EgOJICi_X@x1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aimRB5Uv2XtTE4Xy@redhat.com>
On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 05:29:59PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> -global is/was intended for devices, primarily those which
> are created by default as part of the machine. For dynamically
> created devices the docs recommend use of -device instead
> of -global.
I wished it was called -device-global then it'll be clearer, otherwise from
an API perspective it really shouldn't be limited to qdev..
It makes sense to not call it -device-global, IMHO essentially because we
don't necessarily need to restrict it to -device.
>
> I get that -global was exposed for migration via the inappropriate
> use of TYPE_DEVICE as a parent for TYPE_MIGRATION, but I don't
> think we should be prolonging that misuse by exposing use of
> -global for things which are QOM rather than QDev.
>
> If we want todo that for the sake of backcompat, IMHO it should
> be deprecated so it only lives for a short while after the
> conversion to QOM.
>
> This makes me realize that this does not implement the UserCreatable
> interface on TYPE_MIGRATION, so I'm presuming the MigrationState is
> still created internally. Perhaps we should switch to making it a
> full UserCreatable, such that -object can be used to set all migration
> parameters on the command line and -global won't be required ?
This is what Fabiano suggested in his reply here:
https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/87jys75npb.fsf@suse.de/
I wonder what's your view on that when put together the singleton series I
used to post, where I also mentioned in the reply:
https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/aimtYbka4GB9Qyk6@x1.local/
If you think that's the right approach, we can try to have it to replace
-global. -global is debug API for migration, we don't need to obsolete it.
Compat property is, which is unaffected by this. So we can remove -global
support for migration, but it'll always be good to have a replacement for
scripts.
Thanks,
--
Peter Xu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-10 18:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-09 17:25 [PATCH v2 00/10] migration/qom: Remove TYPE_DEVICE dependency on migration object Peter Xu
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] migration: Use OBJECT_DECLARE_SIMPLE_TYPE Peter Xu
2026-06-09 22:55 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-10 13:56 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-10 15:15 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] qdev: Export global_props() Peter Xu
2026-06-09 22:55 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-10 15:18 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] qdev: Introduce DEFINE_PROP_*_NODEFAULT for bool/uint32 Peter Xu
2026-06-10 15:25 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] hw/arm: Use nodefault version of qdev props when not needed Peter Xu
2026-06-10 15:31 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] qom: Create object-property-ptr.[ch] Peter Xu
2026-06-10 16:15 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-10 18:39 ` Peter Xu
2026-06-10 20:37 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-11 13:52 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-11 14:36 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-11 14:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-16 21:02 ` Peter Xu
2026-06-17 12:25 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-17 12:27 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-11 12:54 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-11 13:53 ` Peter Xu
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] qom: Add object_property_add_bool_ptr() Peter Xu
2026-06-09 23:18 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-11 12:59 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] qom: Add object_property_add_size_ptr() Peter Xu
2026-06-09 23:18 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] qom: Add object_property_add_*_ptr_def() Peter Xu
2026-06-09 23:21 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-11 14:03 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] qom: Allow default values for instance properties Peter Xu
2026-06-10 16:19 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-11 14:08 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-11 14:17 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-11 15:24 ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2026-06-09 17:25 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] migration: Switch to TYPE_OBJECT with object properties Peter Xu
2026-06-10 16:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-10 18:46 ` Peter Xu
2026-06-10 19:53 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-10 20:18 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-10 16:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-06-10 18:51 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2026-06-09 22:54 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] migration/qom: Remove TYPE_DEVICE dependency on migration object Fabiano Rosas
2026-06-10 18:30 ` Peter Xu
2026-06-11 13:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
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