From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>,
Quentin Casasnovas <quentin.casasnovas@oracle.com>
Cc: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"qemu-trivial@nongnu.org" <qemu-trivial@nongnu.org>,
"nbd-general@lists.sourceforge.net"
<nbd-general@lists.sourceforge.net>,
"qemu-stable@nongnu.org" <qemu-stable@nongnu.org>,
qemu block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-trivial] [Nbd] [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] nbd: fix trim/discard commands with a length bigger than NBD_MAX_BUFFER_SIZE
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 11:38:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5732FD8C.1080106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8F0007CD-40E2-43C1-8196-B4BE401B8EF4@alex.org.uk>
On 10/05/2016 18:23, Alex Bligh wrote:
> > Is there a use case where you'd want to split up a single big TRIM request
> > in smaller ones (as in some hardware would not support it or something)?
> > Even then, it looks like this splitting up would be hardware dependant and
> > better implemented in block device drivers.
>
> Part of the point of the block size extension is to push such limits to the
> client.
>
> I could make up use cases (e.g. that performing a multi-gigabyte trim in
> a single threaded server will effectively block all other I/O), but the
> main reason in my book is orthogonality, and the fact the client needs
> to do some breaking up anyway.
That's why SCSI for example has a limit to UNMAP and WRITE SAME requests
(actually it has three limits: number of ranges per unmap, which in NBD
and in SCSI WRITE SAME is 1; number of blocks per unmap descriptor;
number of blocks per WRITE SAME operation). These limits however are a
different one than the read/write limit, because you want to support
systems where TRIM is much faster than regular I/O (and possibly even
O(1) if trimming something that is already trimmed).
Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-11 9:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-06 8:45 [Qemu-trivial] [PATCH] nbd: fix trim/discard commands with a length bigger than NBD_MAX_BUFFER_SIZE Quentin Casasnovas
2016-05-10 14:01 ` [Qemu-trivial] [Qemu-devel] " Eric Blake
2016-05-10 15:08 ` [Qemu-trivial] [Nbd] " Alex Bligh
2016-05-10 15:29 ` Eric Blake
2016-05-10 15:38 ` Alex Bligh
2016-05-10 15:45 ` Quentin Casasnovas
2016-05-10 15:49 ` Alex Bligh
2016-05-10 16:04 ` Quentin Casasnovas
2016-05-10 16:23 ` Alex Bligh
2016-05-10 16:27 ` Quentin Casasnovas
2016-05-11 9:38 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2016-05-11 14:08 ` Eric Blake
2016-05-11 14:55 ` Alex Bligh
2016-05-11 15:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-05-10 17:55 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-05-11 21:12 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-05-12 15:33 ` Alex Bligh
2016-05-10 15:41 ` Alex Bligh
2016-05-10 15:46 ` Eric Blake
2016-05-10 15:52 ` Alex Bligh
2016-05-10 15:54 ` Quentin Casasnovas
2016-05-10 16:33 ` Quentin Casasnovas
2016-05-10 20:24 ` Eric Blake
2016-05-10 19:13 ` Michał Belczyk
2016-05-11 21:10 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-05-11 21:06 ` Wouter Verhelst
2016-05-12 15:03 ` Alex Bligh
2016-05-10 20:34 ` [Qemu-trivial] " Eric Blake
2016-05-11 8:34 ` Quentin Casasnovas
2016-05-11 14:11 ` Eric Blake
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