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From: Pavel Roskin <proski-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes-cdvu00un1VgdHxzADdlk8Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Gerald Combs <gerald-IZ8446WsY0/dtAWm4Da02A@public.gmane.org>,
	radiotap <radiotap-rN9S6JXhQ+WXmMXjJBpWqg@public.gmane.org>,
	David Young <dyoung-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: use of radiotap bit 14?
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:39:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1213900799.3240.15.camel@dv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1213899529.8967.62.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 20:18 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:

> Well, yes, but it seemed prudent to not introduce a third
> "used-but-not-standardised" category and these bit numbers reflect the
> fact that they are indeed used with those bit numbers in varying OSes.

OK.  And proper proposals should have "unassigned" under "Bit Number".

> I hope the audience of this website is smart enough to realise that.

Sure, but the contested fields set a bad example.  It may be better to
write "don't do it again" in some places.

> > Perhaps you could add your proposal without a bit number and then ask
> > for the numbers to be assigned?  If 19 is the lowest uncontested number,
> > then it would be assigned.
> > 
> > There is no need to wait with your proposals until the contested fields
> > controversy is resolved.
> 
> Well, I don't have a proposal yet, those fields that are there are
> sufficient if we also accept the vendor-namespaces idea that I'm just
> trying to put into understandable words.

There should be a local/testing/vendor area or bit numbers so that the
proposals can be tested before they are submitted.  Another approach
would be to have an extra header consisting of items in the format like:

header length, in bytes
number of items (N)
vendor id for item 1
length of item 1
type of item 1
data of item 1
...
vendor id for item N
length of item N
type of item N
data of item N

And the radiotap header would indicate whether the extra header is
present.  That would be very flexible for testing (item type could be
incremented when something changes).

-- 
Regards,
Pavel Roskin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-19 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-30 22:16 use of radiotap bit 14? Johannes Berg
     [not found] ` <1188512214.7585.3.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-31 14:47   ` Pavel Roskin
2007-08-31 16:23     ` Sam Leffler
     [not found]       ` <46D84073.3090709-zZXckVAlHaQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-31 16:33         ` Sam Leffler
2007-08-31 16:50     ` Gerald Combs
     [not found]       ` <46D846E4.20103-IZ8446WsY0/dtAWm4Da02A@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-31 21:57         ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]           ` <1188597475.7585.46.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-31 22:17             ` Pavel Roskin
2007-09-12 17:17             ` David Young
     [not found]               ` <20070912171755.GA17887-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-12 19:21                 ` Gerald Combs
2007-09-13  7:18                 ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                   ` <1189667921.6161.86.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-26 16:58                     ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                       ` <1196096301.4149.309.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-26 18:13                         ` David Young
     [not found]                           ` <20071126181329.GA3568-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 13:21                             ` Johannes Berg
2007-09-12 18:06   ` David Young
     [not found]     ` <20070912180619.GB17887-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-12 19:03       ` Pavel Roskin
2007-09-13 18:06         ` David Young
     [not found]           ` <20070913180618.GK17887-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-13 18:15             ` Guy Harris
2007-09-13  7:29       ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]         ` <1189668582.6161.91.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-07 23:55           ` David Young
     [not found]             ` <20071007235551.GN6429-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-08  9:45               ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                 ` <1191836708.4063.17.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 16:13                   ` Johannes Berg
2007-12-11 23:09               ` Johannes Berg
2007-12-12 17:27               ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 18:10               ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                 ` <1213899026.8967.56.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 18:41                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 17:44   ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]     ` <1213897499.8967.46.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 17:59       ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]         ` <1213898387.8967.54.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 18:28           ` Gerald Combs
     [not found]             ` <485AA531.4010408-IZ8446WsY0/dtAWm4Da02A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 18:34               ` Guy Harris
     [not found]                 ` <485AA6C3.8090303-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 18:37                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 20:05           ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 18:13       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-06-19 18:18         ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]           ` <1213899529.8967.62.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 18:39             ` Pavel Roskin [this message]
2008-06-19 18:43               ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 18:56       ` David Young
     [not found]         ` <20080619185646.GA17738-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 19:10           ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]             ` <1213902633.8967.84.camel-YfaajirXv214zXjbi5bjpg@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 19:33               ` Guy Harris
     [not found]                 ` <485AB49B.4080403-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 19:59                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 19:39               ` David Young
     [not found]                 ` <20080619193958.GB17738-eZ+MEZF6i8Dc+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 19:51                   ` Guy Harris
     [not found]                     ` <485AB8B0.7060606-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 20:06                       ` Loris Degioanni
     [not found]                         ` <485ABC4A.4060801-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-19 20:17                           ` Guy Harris
2008-06-19 20:25                           ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-01 16:35                       ` use of radiotap bit 14? [mostly 11n] Sam Leffler
2008-06-19 20:06                   ` use of radiotap bit 14? Johannes Berg
2008-06-19 22:33           ` Scott Raynel

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