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From: David Young <dyoung-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: radiotap <radiotap-sUITvd46vNxg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: RTS/CTS + CTS-to-self
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:35:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090821223519.GE1436@ojctech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69e28c910908211455u5dcd70f0u94eab510ab91a69a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:55:27PM +0200, Gábor Stefanik wrote:
> 2009/8/21 Johannes Berg <johannes-cdvu00un1VgdHxzADdlk8Q@public.gmane.org>:
> > On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 17:04 +0200, Gábor Stefanik wrote:
> >
> >> I've reworked RTS/CTS since then, just haven't got to sending a new
> >> proposal yet. The current plan is as follows:
> >>
> >> TX_FLAGS & 0x0002: Use CTS
> >> TX_FLAGS & 0x0004: Use RTS
> >> TX_FLAGS & 0x0020: Disable RTS/CTS usage
> >
> > Seems a bit strange, wouldn't setting neither RTS nor CTS have the
> > effect? Seems like 0x20 should rather be "use automatic and ignore the
> > other bits". Anyway, not appropriate here, you should just bring a new
> > proposal.
> 
> The point is that if all bits are 0, auto-setup is used. The problem
> with my original proposal (using two bits) was that an all-zero value
> had different effect than not including the TX flags field (and simply
> swapping "none" and "auto" would result in an illogicality where what
> would logically be "use both" would become "use neither" - just the
> opposite of its logical meaning). Making 0x20 mean "Auto-select
> RTS/CTS", interpreting all-zeros as "Use neither", would have the same
> problem as my proposal - all-zeros is different from a missing field.
> (An empty, zeroed field 15 should have no effect on the process,
> behaving as if field 15 was not present in the header.)

Gábor,

Please explain what is wrong with a two-bit (four-state) field like
this?

00: Let the hardware, firmware, or device driver decide.  (I.e., same as
    omitting Tx flags altogether.)
01: Send RTS/CTS.
10: Send CTS to self.
11: Forbid CTS-to-self and RTS/CTS.

This is just a small modification to one of your previous proposals.

(Note that I have trimmed the lengthy To: line!)

Dave

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David Young             OJC Technologies
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-21 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-21 14:31 Plans for an online meeting regarding Radiotap Gábor Stefanik
     [not found] ` <4A8EAFA6.9010608-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 14:34   ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]     ` <1250865255.4600.6.camel-YfaajirXv2244ywRPIzf9A@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 14:41       ` Gábor Stefanik
     [not found]         ` <69e28c910908210741wd3bc391x311523f5b55fd4f1-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 14:45           ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]             ` <1250865918.4600.9.camel-YfaajirXv2244ywRPIzf9A@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 15:04               ` Gábor Stefanik
     [not found]                 ` <69e28c910908210804h6181aab1w4a864392239aa1ac-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 15:11                   ` Johannes Berg
     [not found]                     ` <1250867479.4600.11.camel-YfaajirXv2244ywRPIzf9A@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 21:55                       ` Gábor Stefanik
     [not found]                         ` <69e28c910908211455u5dcd70f0u94eab510ab91a69a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 22:35                           ` David Young [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <20090821223519.GE1436-eZodSLrBbDpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-21 22:47                               ` RTS/CTS + CTS-to-self Gábor Stefanik
     [not found]                                 ` <69e28c910908211547k7c48551aj4d9ac2d06ceeb6da-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-22  4:37                                   ` Dave Young
2009-08-24 18:17                                   ` David Young
2009-08-22  4:38                           ` Plans for an online meeting regarding Radiotap Dave Young
2009-08-23 14:27                   ` Mike Kershaw
2009-08-24 18:55   ` Guy Harris
     [not found]     ` <EE141467-6B64-48B1-AC4C-EA5BD08BDB00-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>
2009-08-24 19:02       ` Guy Harris

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