* [PATCH v3 0/2] cpuhp: Improve SMT switch time via lock batching and RCU expedition @ 2026-02-18 8:39 Vishal Chourasia 2026-02-18 8:39 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] cpuhp: Optimize SMT switch operation by batching lock acquisition Vishal Chourasia 2026-02-18 8:39 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations Vishal Chourasia 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Vishal Chourasia @ 2026-02-18 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: peterz, aboorvad Cc: boqun.feng, frederic, joelagnelf, josh, linux-kernel, neeraj.upadhyay, paulmck, rcu, rostedt, srikar, sshegde, tglx, urezki, samir, vishalc On large systems with high core counts, toggling SMT modes via sysfs (/sys/devices/system/cpu/smt/control) incurs significant latency. For instance, on ~2000 CPUs, switching SMT modes can take close to an hour as the system hotplugs each hardware thread individually. This series reduces this time to minutes. Analysis of the hotplug path [1] identifies synchronize_rcu() as the primary bottleneck. During a bulk SMT switch, the kernel repeatedly enters RCU grace periods for each CPU being brought online or offline. This series optimizes the SMT transition in two ways: 1. Lock Batching [1]: Instead of repeatedly acquiring and releasing the CPU hotplug write lock for every individual CPU, we now hold cpus_write_lock across the entire SMT toggle operation. 2. Expedite RCU grace period [2]: It utilizes rcu_expedite_gp() to force expedite grace periods specifically for the duration of the SMT switch. The trade-off is justified here to prevent the administrative task of SMT switching from stalling for an unacceptable duration on large systems. Changes since v1 Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260112094332.66006-2-vishalc@linux.ibm.com/ Expedite system-wide synchronize_rcu only when SMT switch operation are triggered via /sys/devices/system/cpu/smt/control interface. Changes since v2 Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260216121927.489062-2-vishalc@linux.ibm.com/ Move the declaration of rcu_[un]expedite_gp() to include/linux/rcupdate.h. Thanks Shrikanth for sharing the fix and kernel test robot for finding the issue. [3] [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/5f2ab8a44d685701fe36cdaa8042a1aef215d10d.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260113090153.GS830755@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net/ [3] https://lore.kernel.org/all/202602170049.WQD7Wcuj-lkp@intel.com/ Vishal Chourasia (2): cpuhp: Optimize SMT switch operation by batching lock acquisition cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations include/linux/rcupdate.h | 8 +++++ kernel/cpu.c | 76 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------- kernel/rcu/rcu.h | 4 --- 3 files changed, 64 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-) -- 2.53.0 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [PATCH v3 1/2] cpuhp: Optimize SMT switch operation by batching lock acquisition 2026-02-18 8:39 [PATCH v3 0/2] cpuhp: Improve SMT switch time via lock batching and RCU expedition Vishal Chourasia @ 2026-02-18 8:39 ` Vishal Chourasia 2026-03-25 19:09 ` Thomas Gleixner 2026-02-18 8:39 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations Vishal Chourasia 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Vishal Chourasia @ 2026-02-18 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: peterz, aboorvad Cc: boqun.feng, frederic, joelagnelf, josh, linux-kernel, neeraj.upadhyay, paulmck, rcu, rostedt, srikar, sshegde, tglx, urezki, samir, vishalc From: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com> Bulk CPU hotplug operations, such as an SMT switch operation, requires hotplugging multiple CPUs. The current implementation takes cpus_write_lock() for each individual CPU, causing multiple slow grace period requests. Introduce cpu_up_locked() and cpu_down_locked() that assume the caller already holds cpus_write_lock(). The cpuhp_smt_enable() and cpuhp_smt_disable() functions are updated to hold the lock once around the entire loop, rather than for each individual CPU. Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260113090153.GS830755@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net/ Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> Signed-off-by: Vishal Chourasia <vishalc@linux.ibm.com> --- kernel/cpu.c | 72 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------- 1 file changed, 52 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-) diff --git a/kernel/cpu.c b/kernel/cpu.c index 01968a5c4a16..62e209eda78c 100644 --- a/kernel/cpu.c +++ b/kernel/cpu.c @@ -1400,8 +1400,8 @@ static int cpuhp_down_callbacks(unsigned int cpu, struct cpuhp_cpu_state *st, return ret; } -/* Requires cpu_add_remove_lock to be held */ -static int __ref _cpu_down(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, +/* Requires cpu_add_remove_lock and cpus_write_lock to be held */ +static int __ref cpu_down_locked(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, enum cpuhp_state target) { struct cpuhp_cpu_state *st = per_cpu_ptr(&cpuhp_state, cpu); @@ -1413,7 +1413,7 @@ static int __ref _cpu_down(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, if (!cpu_present(cpu)) return -EINVAL; - cpus_write_lock(); + lockdep_assert_cpus_held(); /* * Keep at least one housekeeping cpu onlined to avoid generating @@ -1421,8 +1421,7 @@ static int __ref _cpu_down(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, */ if (cpumask_any_and(cpu_online_mask, housekeeping_cpumask(HK_TYPE_DOMAIN)) >= nr_cpu_ids) { - ret = -EBUSY; - goto out; + return -EBUSY; } cpuhp_tasks_frozen = tasks_frozen; @@ -1440,14 +1439,14 @@ static int __ref _cpu_down(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, * return the error code.. */ if (ret) - goto out; + return ret; /* * We might have stopped still in the range of the AP hotplug * thread. Nothing to do anymore. */ if (st->state > CPUHP_TEARDOWN_CPU) - goto out; + return 0; st->target = target; } @@ -1464,8 +1463,16 @@ static int __ref _cpu_down(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, WARN(1, "DEAD callback error for CPU%d", cpu); } } + return ret; +} -out: +static int __ref _cpu_down(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, + enum cpuhp_state target) +{ + + int ret; + cpus_write_lock(); + ret = cpu_down_locked(cpu, tasks_frozen, target); cpus_write_unlock(); arch_smt_update(); return ret; @@ -1613,18 +1620,18 @@ void cpuhp_online_idle(enum cpuhp_state state) complete_ap_thread(st, true); } -/* Requires cpu_add_remove_lock to be held */ -static int _cpu_up(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, enum cpuhp_state target) +/* Requires cpu_add_remove_lock and cpus_write_lock to be held. */ +static int cpu_up_locked(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, + enum cpuhp_state target) { struct cpuhp_cpu_state *st = per_cpu_ptr(&cpuhp_state, cpu); struct task_struct *idle; int ret = 0; - cpus_write_lock(); + lockdep_assert_cpus_held(); if (!cpu_present(cpu)) { - ret = -EINVAL; - goto out; + return -EINVAL; } /* @@ -1632,14 +1639,13 @@ static int _cpu_up(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, enum cpuhp_state target) * caller. Nothing to do. */ if (st->state >= target) - goto out; + return 0; if (st->state == CPUHP_OFFLINE) { /* Let it fail before we try to bring the cpu up */ idle = idle_thread_get(cpu); if (IS_ERR(idle)) { - ret = PTR_ERR(idle); - goto out; + return PTR_ERR(idle); } /* @@ -1663,7 +1669,7 @@ static int _cpu_up(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, enum cpuhp_state target) * return the error code.. */ if (ret) - goto out; + return ret; } /* @@ -1673,7 +1679,16 @@ static int _cpu_up(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, enum cpuhp_state target) */ target = min((int)target, CPUHP_BRINGUP_CPU); ret = cpuhp_up_callbacks(cpu, st, target); -out: + return ret; +} + +/* Requires cpu_add_remove_lock to be held */ +static int _cpu_up(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, enum cpuhp_state target) +{ + int ret; + + cpus_write_lock(); + ret = cpu_up_locked(cpu, tasks_frozen, target); cpus_write_unlock(); arch_smt_update(); return ret; @@ -2659,6 +2674,16 @@ int cpuhp_smt_disable(enum cpuhp_smt_control ctrlval) int cpu, ret = 0; cpu_maps_update_begin(); + if (cpu_hotplug_offline_disabled) { + ret = -EOPNOTSUPP; + goto out; + } + if (cpu_hotplug_disabled) { + ret = -EBUSY; + goto out; + } + /* Hold cpus_write_lock() for entire batch operation. */ + cpus_write_lock(); for_each_online_cpu(cpu) { if (topology_is_primary_thread(cpu)) continue; @@ -2668,7 +2693,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_disable(enum cpuhp_smt_control ctrlval) */ if (ctrlval == CPU_SMT_ENABLED && cpu_smt_thread_allowed(cpu)) continue; - ret = cpu_down_maps_locked(cpu, CPUHP_OFFLINE); + ret = cpu_down_locked(cpu, 0, CPUHP_OFFLINE); if (ret) break; /* @@ -2688,6 +2713,9 @@ int cpuhp_smt_disable(enum cpuhp_smt_control ctrlval) } if (!ret) cpu_smt_control = ctrlval; + cpus_write_unlock(); + arch_smt_update(); +out: cpu_maps_update_done(); return ret; } @@ -2705,6 +2733,8 @@ int cpuhp_smt_enable(void) int cpu, ret = 0; cpu_maps_update_begin(); + /* Hold cpus_write_lock() for entire batch operation. */ + cpus_write_lock(); cpu_smt_control = CPU_SMT_ENABLED; for_each_present_cpu(cpu) { /* Skip online CPUs and CPUs on offline nodes */ @@ -2712,12 +2742,14 @@ int cpuhp_smt_enable(void) continue; if (!cpu_smt_thread_allowed(cpu) || !topology_is_core_online(cpu)) continue; - ret = _cpu_up(cpu, 0, CPUHP_ONLINE); + ret = cpu_up_locked(cpu, 0, CPUHP_ONLINE); if (ret) break; /* See comment in cpuhp_smt_disable() */ cpuhp_online_cpu_device(cpu); } + cpus_write_unlock(); + arch_smt_update(); cpu_maps_update_done(); return ret; } -- 2.53.0 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] cpuhp: Optimize SMT switch operation by batching lock acquisition 2026-02-18 8:39 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] cpuhp: Optimize SMT switch operation by batching lock acquisition Vishal Chourasia @ 2026-03-25 19:09 ` Thomas Gleixner 2026-03-26 10:06 ` Vishal Chourasia 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2026-03-25 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Vishal Chourasia, peterz, aboorvad Cc: boqun.feng, frederic, joelagnelf, josh, linux-kernel, neeraj.upadhyay, paulmck, rcu, rostedt, srikar, sshegde, urezki, samir, vishalc On Wed, Feb 18 2026 at 14:09, Vishal Chourasia wrote: > From: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com> > > Bulk CPU hotplug operations, such as an SMT switch operation, requires > hotplugging multiple CPUs. The current implementation takes > cpus_write_lock() for each individual CPU, causing multiple slow grace > period requests. > > Introduce cpu_up_locked() and cpu_down_locked() that assume the caller > already holds cpus_write_lock(). The cpuhp_smt_enable() and > cpuhp_smt_disable() functions are updated to hold the lock once around > the entire loop, rather than for each individual CPU. > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260113090153.GS830755@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net/ > Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> > Signed-off-by: Vishal Chourasia <vishalc@linux.ibm.com> You dropped Joel's Signed-off-by .... > -/* Requires cpu_add_remove_lock to be held */ > -static int __ref _cpu_down(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, > +/* Requires cpu_add_remove_lock and cpus_write_lock to be held */ > +static int __ref cpu_down_locked(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, > enum cpuhp_state target) No line break required. You have 100 chars. If you still need one: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/maintainer-tip.html > */ > if (cpumask_any_and(cpu_online_mask, > housekeeping_cpumask(HK_TYPE_DOMAIN)) >= nr_cpu_ids) { > - ret = -EBUSY; > - goto out; > + return -EBUSY; > } Please remove the brackets. They are not longer required. All over the place. > +static int __ref _cpu_down(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, > + enum cpuhp_state target) > +{ > + > + int ret; > + cpus_write_lock(); Coding style... > + ret = cpu_down_locked(cpu, tasks_frozen, target); > cpus_write_unlock(); > arch_smt_update(); > return ret; > @@ -2659,6 +2674,16 @@ int cpuhp_smt_disable(enum cpuhp_smt_control ctrlval) > int cpu, ret = 0; > > cpu_maps_update_begin(); > + if (cpu_hotplug_offline_disabled) { > + ret = -EOPNOTSUPP; > + goto out; > + } > + if (cpu_hotplug_disabled) { > + ret = -EBUSY; > + goto out; > + } > + /* Hold cpus_write_lock() for entire batch operation. */ > + cpus_write_lock(); .... for the entire ... And please visiually separate things. Newlines exist for a reason. Thanks, tglx ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] cpuhp: Optimize SMT switch operation by batching lock acquisition 2026-03-25 19:09 ` Thomas Gleixner @ 2026-03-26 10:06 ` Vishal Chourasia 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Vishal Chourasia @ 2026-03-26 10:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas Gleixner Cc: peterz, aboorvad, boqun.feng, frederic, joelagnelf, josh, linux-kernel, neeraj.upadhyay, paulmck, rcu, rostedt, srikar, sshegde, urezki, samir Hi Thomas, Thank you for the review. Numbers from 400 CPUs that I had while back, baseline: Linux 6.19.0-rc4-00310-g755bc1335e3b On PPC64 system with 400 CPUs: SMT8 to SMT1: baseline: real 1m14.792s baseline+patch: real 0m03.205s # ~23x improvement SMT1 to SMT8: baseline: real 2m27.695s baseline+patch: real 0m02.510s # ~58x improvement Note: We observe huge improvements for max config system which originally took approx to 1 hour to switch SMT states, with GPs expedited is taking 5 to 6 minutes. Analysis: why expediting GPs improves time to complete By expediting the grace period, we force an immediate IPI-driven quiescent state detection across all CPUs rather than lazily waiting, which dramatically reduces the time the calling thread remains blocked in synchronize_rcu() Why holding the cpus_write_lock() for the duration of SMT switch will not work? [1] This causes hung-task timeout splats [2] because there are threads blocked on cpus_read_lock(). Expediting grace periods shrinks the window but doesn't eliminate it. I plan to drop this patch and the next version will only carry the expedited RCU grace period change. I will incorporate all your other suggestions in the next version. [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260113090153.GS830755@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net/ [2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/aapprY-prH0l_WeK@linux.ibm.com/ On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 08:09:17PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18 2026 at 14:09, Vishal Chourasia wrote: > > From: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com> > > > > Bulk CPU hotplug operations, such as an SMT switch operation, requires > > hotplugging multiple CPUs. The current implementation takes > > cpus_write_lock() for each individual CPU, causing multiple slow grace > > period requests. > > > > Introduce cpu_up_locked() and cpu_down_locked() that assume the caller > > already holds cpus_write_lock(). The cpuhp_smt_enable() and > > cpuhp_smt_disable() functions are updated to hold the lock once around > > the entire loop, rather than for each individual CPU. > > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260113090153.GS830755@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net/ > > Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> > > Signed-off-by: Vishal Chourasia <vishalc@linux.ibm.com> > > You dropped Joel's Signed-off-by .... Sorry for messing up the changelog w.r.t to signed-off-by tag. Will take care in future. > > > -/* Requires cpu_add_remove_lock to be held */ > > -static int __ref _cpu_down(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, > > +/* Requires cpu_add_remove_lock and cpus_write_lock to be held */ > > +static int __ref cpu_down_locked(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, > > enum cpuhp_state target) > > No line break required. You have 100 chars. If you still need one: > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/maintainer-tip.html Ack. > > > */ > > if (cpumask_any_and(cpu_online_mask, > > housekeeping_cpumask(HK_TYPE_DOMAIN)) >= nr_cpu_ids) { > > - ret = -EBUSY; > > - goto out; > > + return -EBUSY; > > } > > Please remove the brackets. They are not longer required. All over the place. Ack. > > > +static int __ref _cpu_down(unsigned int cpu, int tasks_frozen, > > + enum cpuhp_state target) > > +{ > > + > > + int ret; > > + cpus_write_lock(); > > Coding style... Ack. > > > + ret = cpu_down_locked(cpu, tasks_frozen, target); > > cpus_write_unlock(); > > arch_smt_update(); > > return ret; > > @@ -2659,6 +2674,16 @@ int cpuhp_smt_disable(enum cpuhp_smt_control ctrlval) > > int cpu, ret = 0; > > > > cpu_maps_update_begin(); > > + if (cpu_hotplug_offline_disabled) { > > + ret = -EOPNOTSUPP; > > + goto out; > > + } > > + if (cpu_hotplug_disabled) { > > + ret = -EBUSY; > > + goto out; > > + } > > + /* Hold cpus_write_lock() for entire batch operation. */ > > + cpus_write_lock(); > > .... for the entire ... > > And please visiually separate things. Newlines exist for a reason. Sure. > > Thanks, > > tglx Thanks and Regards! Vishalc ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations 2026-02-18 8:39 [PATCH v3 0/2] cpuhp: Improve SMT switch time via lock batching and RCU expedition Vishal Chourasia 2026-02-18 8:39 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] cpuhp: Optimize SMT switch operation by batching lock acquisition Vishal Chourasia @ 2026-02-18 8:39 ` Vishal Chourasia 2026-02-27 1:13 ` Joel Fernandes 2026-03-25 19:10 ` Thomas Gleixner 1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Vishal Chourasia @ 2026-02-18 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: peterz, aboorvad Cc: boqun.feng, frederic, joelagnelf, josh, linux-kernel, neeraj.upadhyay, paulmck, rcu, rostedt, srikar, sshegde, tglx, urezki, samir, vishalc Expedite synchronize_rcu during the SMT mode switch operation when initiated via /sys/devices/system/cpu/smt/control interface SMT mode switch operation i.e. between SMT 8 to SMT 1 or vice versa and others are user driven operations and therefore should complete as soon as possible. Switching SMT states involves iterating over a list of CPUs and performing hotplug operations. It was found these transitions took significantly large amount of time to complete particularly on high-core-count systems. Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> Signed-off-by: Vishal Chourasia <vishalc@linux.ibm.com> --- include/linux/rcupdate.h | 8 ++++++++ kernel/cpu.c | 4 ++++ kernel/rcu/rcu.h | 4 ---- 3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/include/linux/rcupdate.h b/include/linux/rcupdate.h index 7729fef249e1..61b80c29d53b 100644 --- a/include/linux/rcupdate.h +++ b/include/linux/rcupdate.h @@ -1190,6 +1190,14 @@ rcu_head_after_call_rcu(struct rcu_head *rhp, rcu_callback_t f) extern int rcu_expedited; extern int rcu_normal; +#ifdef CONFIG_TINY_RCU +static inline void rcu_expedite_gp(void) { } +static inline void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void) { } +#else +void rcu_expedite_gp(void); +void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void); +#endif + DEFINE_LOCK_GUARD_0(rcu, rcu_read_lock(), rcu_read_unlock()) DECLARE_LOCK_GUARD_0_ATTRS(rcu, __acquires_shared(RCU), __releases_shared(RCU)) diff --git a/kernel/cpu.c b/kernel/cpu.c index 62e209eda78c..1377a68d6f47 100644 --- a/kernel/cpu.c +++ b/kernel/cpu.c @@ -2682,6 +2682,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_disable(enum cpuhp_smt_control ctrlval) ret = -EBUSY; goto out; } + rcu_expedite_gp(); /* Hold cpus_write_lock() for entire batch operation. */ cpus_write_lock(); for_each_online_cpu(cpu) { @@ -2714,6 +2715,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_disable(enum cpuhp_smt_control ctrlval) if (!ret) cpu_smt_control = ctrlval; cpus_write_unlock(); + rcu_unexpedite_gp(); arch_smt_update(); out: cpu_maps_update_done(); @@ -2733,6 +2735,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_enable(void) int cpu, ret = 0; cpu_maps_update_begin(); + rcu_expedite_gp(); /* Hold cpus_write_lock() for entire batch operation. */ cpus_write_lock(); cpu_smt_control = CPU_SMT_ENABLED; @@ -2749,6 +2752,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_enable(void) cpuhp_online_cpu_device(cpu); } cpus_write_unlock(); + rcu_unexpedite_gp(); arch_smt_update(); cpu_maps_update_done(); return ret; diff --git a/kernel/rcu/rcu.h b/kernel/rcu/rcu.h index dc5d614b372c..41a0d262e964 100644 --- a/kernel/rcu/rcu.h +++ b/kernel/rcu/rcu.h @@ -512,8 +512,6 @@ do { \ static inline bool rcu_gp_is_normal(void) { return true; } static inline bool rcu_gp_is_expedited(void) { return false; } static inline bool rcu_async_should_hurry(void) { return false; } -static inline void rcu_expedite_gp(void) { } -static inline void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void) { } static inline void rcu_async_hurry(void) { } static inline void rcu_async_relax(void) { } static inline bool rcu_cpu_online(int cpu) { return true; } @@ -521,8 +519,6 @@ static inline bool rcu_cpu_online(int cpu) { return true; } bool rcu_gp_is_normal(void); /* Internal RCU use. */ bool rcu_gp_is_expedited(void); /* Internal RCU use. */ bool rcu_async_should_hurry(void); /* Internal RCU use. */ -void rcu_expedite_gp(void); -void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void); void rcu_async_hurry(void); void rcu_async_relax(void); void rcupdate_announce_bootup_oddness(void); -- 2.53.0 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations 2026-02-18 8:39 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations Vishal Chourasia @ 2026-02-27 1:13 ` Joel Fernandes 2026-03-02 11:47 ` Samir M 2026-03-25 19:10 ` Thomas Gleixner 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Joel Fernandes @ 2026-02-27 1:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Vishal Chourasia Cc: peterz, aboorvad, boqun.feng, frederic, josh, linux-kernel, neeraj.upadhyay, paulmck, rcu, rostedt, srikar, sshegde, tglx, urezki, samir On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 02:09:18PM +0530, Vishal Chourasia wrote: > Expedite synchronize_rcu during the SMT mode switch operation when > initiated via /sys/devices/system/cpu/smt/control interface > > SMT mode switch operation i.e. between SMT 8 to SMT 1 or vice versa and > others are user driven operations and therefore should complete as soon > as possible. Switching SMT states involves iterating over a list of CPUs > and performing hotplug operations. It was found these transitions took > significantly large amount of time to complete particularly on > high-core-count systems. > > Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> > Signed-off-by: Vishal Chourasia <vishalc@linux.ibm.com> > --- > include/linux/rcupdate.h | 8 ++++++++ > kernel/cpu.c | 4 ++++ > kernel/rcu/rcu.h | 4 ---- > 3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/include/linux/rcupdate.h b/include/linux/rcupdate.h > index 7729fef249e1..61b80c29d53b 100644 > --- a/include/linux/rcupdate.h > +++ b/include/linux/rcupdate.h > @@ -1190,6 +1190,14 @@ rcu_head_after_call_rcu(struct rcu_head *rhp, rcu_callback_t f) > extern int rcu_expedited; > extern int rcu_normal; > > +#ifdef CONFIG_TINY_RCU > +static inline void rcu_expedite_gp(void) { } > +static inline void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void) { } > +#else > +void rcu_expedite_gp(void); > +void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void); > +#endif > + > DEFINE_LOCK_GUARD_0(rcu, rcu_read_lock(), rcu_read_unlock()) > DECLARE_LOCK_GUARD_0_ATTRS(rcu, __acquires_shared(RCU), __releases_shared(RCU)) > > diff --git a/kernel/cpu.c b/kernel/cpu.c > index 62e209eda78c..1377a68d6f47 100644 > --- a/kernel/cpu.c > +++ b/kernel/cpu.c > @@ -2682,6 +2682,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_disable(enum cpuhp_smt_control ctrlval) > ret = -EBUSY; > goto out; > } > + rcu_expedite_gp(); After the locking related changes in patch 1, is expediting still required? I am just a bit concerned that we are papering over the real issue of over usage of synchronize_rcu() (which IIRC we discussed in earlier versions of the patches that reducing the number of lock acquire/release was supposed to help.) Could you provide more justification of why expediting these sections is required if the locking concerns were addressed? It would be great if you can provide performance numbers with only the first patch and without the second patch. That way we can quantify this patch. thanks, -- Joel Fernandes > /* Hold cpus_write_lock() for entire batch operation. */ > cpus_write_lock(); > for_each_online_cpu(cpu) { > @@ -2714,6 +2715,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_disable(enum cpuhp_smt_control ctrlval) > if (!ret) > cpu_smt_control = ctrlval; > cpus_write_unlock(); > + rcu_unexpedite_gp(); > arch_smt_update(); > out: > cpu_maps_update_done(); > @@ -2733,6 +2735,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_enable(void) > int cpu, ret = 0; > > cpu_maps_update_begin(); > + rcu_expedite_gp(); > /* Hold cpus_write_lock() for entire batch operation. */ > cpus_write_lock(); > cpu_smt_control = CPU_SMT_ENABLED; > @@ -2749,6 +2752,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_enable(void) > cpuhp_online_cpu_device(cpu); > } > cpus_write_unlock(); > + rcu_unexpedite_gp(); > arch_smt_update(); > cpu_maps_update_done(); > return ret; > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/rcu.h b/kernel/rcu/rcu.h > index dc5d614b372c..41a0d262e964 100644 > --- a/kernel/rcu/rcu.h > +++ b/kernel/rcu/rcu.h > @@ -512,8 +512,6 @@ do { \ > static inline bool rcu_gp_is_normal(void) { return true; } > static inline bool rcu_gp_is_expedited(void) { return false; } > static inline bool rcu_async_should_hurry(void) { return false; } > -static inline void rcu_expedite_gp(void) { } > -static inline void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void) { } > static inline void rcu_async_hurry(void) { } > static inline void rcu_async_relax(void) { } > static inline bool rcu_cpu_online(int cpu) { return true; } > @@ -521,8 +519,6 @@ static inline bool rcu_cpu_online(int cpu) { return true; } > bool rcu_gp_is_normal(void); /* Internal RCU use. */ > bool rcu_gp_is_expedited(void); /* Internal RCU use. */ > bool rcu_async_should_hurry(void); /* Internal RCU use. */ > -void rcu_expedite_gp(void); > -void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void); > void rcu_async_hurry(void); > void rcu_async_relax(void); > void rcupdate_announce_bootup_oddness(void); > -- > 2.53.0 > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations 2026-02-27 1:13 ` Joel Fernandes @ 2026-03-02 11:47 ` Samir M 2026-03-06 5:44 ` Vishal Chourasia 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Samir M @ 2026-03-02 11:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Joel Fernandes, Vishal Chourasia Cc: peterz, aboorvad, boqun.feng, frederic, josh, linux-kernel, neeraj.upadhyay, paulmck, rcu, rostedt, srikar, sshegde, tglx, urezki On 27/02/26 6:43 am, Joel Fernandes wrote: > On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 02:09:18PM +0530, Vishal Chourasia wrote: >> Expedite synchronize_rcu during the SMT mode switch operation when >> initiated via /sys/devices/system/cpu/smt/control interface >> >> SMT mode switch operation i.e. between SMT 8 to SMT 1 or vice versa and >> others are user driven operations and therefore should complete as soon >> as possible. Switching SMT states involves iterating over a list of CPUs >> and performing hotplug operations. It was found these transitions took >> significantly large amount of time to complete particularly on >> high-core-count systems. >> >> Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> >> Signed-off-by: Vishal Chourasia <vishalc@linux.ibm.com> >> --- >> include/linux/rcupdate.h | 8 ++++++++ >> kernel/cpu.c | 4 ++++ >> kernel/rcu/rcu.h | 4 ---- >> 3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) >> >> diff --git a/include/linux/rcupdate.h b/include/linux/rcupdate.h >> index 7729fef249e1..61b80c29d53b 100644 >> --- a/include/linux/rcupdate.h >> +++ b/include/linux/rcupdate.h >> @@ -1190,6 +1190,14 @@ rcu_head_after_call_rcu(struct rcu_head *rhp, rcu_callback_t f) >> extern int rcu_expedited; >> extern int rcu_normal; >> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_TINY_RCU >> +static inline void rcu_expedite_gp(void) { } >> +static inline void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void) { } >> +#else >> +void rcu_expedite_gp(void); >> +void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void); >> +#endif >> + >> DEFINE_LOCK_GUARD_0(rcu, rcu_read_lock(), rcu_read_unlock()) >> DECLARE_LOCK_GUARD_0_ATTRS(rcu, __acquires_shared(RCU), __releases_shared(RCU)) >> >> diff --git a/kernel/cpu.c b/kernel/cpu.c >> index 62e209eda78c..1377a68d6f47 100644 >> --- a/kernel/cpu.c >> +++ b/kernel/cpu.c >> @@ -2682,6 +2682,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_disable(enum cpuhp_smt_control ctrlval) >> ret = -EBUSY; >> goto out; >> } >> + rcu_expedite_gp(); > After the locking related changes in patch 1, is expediting still required? I > am just a bit concerned that we are papering over the real issue of over > usage of synchronize_rcu() (which IIRC we discussed in earlier versions of > the patches that reducing the number of lock acquire/release was supposed to > help.) > > Could you provide more justification of why expediting these sections is > required if the locking concerns were addressed? It would be great if you can > provide performance numbers with only the first patch and without the second > patch. That way we can quantify this patch. > > thanks, > > -- > Joel Fernandes > Hi Vishal/Joel, Configuration: • Kernel version: 7.0.0-rc1 • Number of CPUs: 1536 I have verified the below two patches together and observed improvements, Patch 1: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260218083915.660252-4-vishalc@linux.ibm.com/ Patch 2: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260218083915.660252-6-vishalc@linux.ibm.com/ SMT Mode | Without Patch(Base) | both patch applied | % Improvement | ------------------------------------------------------------------------| SMT=off | 16m 13.956s | 6m 18.435s | +61.14 % | SMT=on | 12m 0.982s | 5m 59.576s | +50.10 % | When I tested the below patch independently, I did not observe any improvements for either smt=on or smt=off. However, in the smt=off scenario, I encountered hung task splats (with call traces), where some threads were blocked on cpus_read_lock. Please also refer to the attached call trace below. Patch 1: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260218083915.660252-4-vishalc@linux.ibm.com/ SMT Mode | Without Patch(Base) | just patch 1 applied | % Improvement | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------| SMT=off | 16m 13.956s | 16m 9.793s | +0.43 % | SMT=on | 12m 0.982s | 12m 19.494s | -2.57 % | Call traces: 12377] [ T8746] Tainted: G E 7.0.0-rc1-150700.51-default-dirty #1 [ 1477.612384] [ T8746] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. [ 1477.612389] [ T8746] task:systemd state:D stack:0 pid:1 tgid:1 ppid:0 task_flags:0x400100 flags:0x00040000 [ 1477.612397] [ T8746] Call Trace: [ 1477.612399] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f4f0] [0000000000100000] 0x100000 (unreliable) [ 1477.612416] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f6a0] [c00000000001fe5c] __switch_to+0x1dc/0x290 [ 1477.612425] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f6f0] [c0000000012598ac] __schedule+0x40c/0x1a70 [ 1477.612433] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f840] [c00000000125af58] schedule+0x48/0x1a0 [ 1477.612439] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f870] [c0000000002e27b8] percpu_rwsem_wait+0x198/0x200 [ 1477.612445] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f8f0] [c000000001262930] __percpu_down_read+0xb0/0x210 [ 1477.612449] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f930] [c00000000022f400] cpus_read_lock+0xc0/0xd0 [ 1477.612456] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f950] [c0000000003a6398] cgroup_procs_write_start+0x328/0x410 [ 1477.612462] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fa00] [c0000000003a9620] __cgroup_procs_write+0x70/0x2c0 [ 1477.612468] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fac0] [c0000000003a98e8] cgroup_procs_write+0x28/0x50 [ 1477.612473] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0faf0] [c0000000003a1624] cgroup_file_write+0xb4/0x240 [ 1477.612478] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fb50] [c000000000853ba8] kernfs_fop_write_iter+0x1a8/0x2a0 [ 1477.612485] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fba0] [c000000000733d5c] vfs_write+0x27c/0x540 [ 1477.612491] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fc50] [c000000000734350] ksys_write+0x80/0x150 [ 1477.612495] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fca0] [c000000000032898] system_call_exception+0x148/0x320 [ 1477.612500] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fe50] [c00000000000d6a0] system_call_common+0x160/0x2c4 [ 1477.612506] [ T8746] ---- interrupt: c00 at 0x7fffa8f73df4 [ 1477.612509] [ T8746] NIP: 00007fffa8f73df4 LR: 00007fffa8eb6144 CTR: 0000000000000000 [ 1477.612512] [ T8746] REGS: c00000000cc0fe80 TRAP: 0c00 Tainted: G E (7.0.0-rc1-150700.51-default-dirty) [ 1477.612515] [ T8746] MSR: 800000000000d033 <SF,EE,PR,ME,IR,DR,RI,LE> CR: 28002288 XER: 00000000 Regards, Samir >> /* Hold cpus_write_lock() for entire batch operation. */ >> cpus_write_lock(); >> for_each_online_cpu(cpu) { >> @@ -2714,6 +2715,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_disable(enum cpuhp_smt_control ctrlval) >> if (!ret) >> cpu_smt_control = ctrlval; >> cpus_write_unlock(); >> + rcu_unexpedite_gp(); >> arch_smt_update(); >> out: >> cpu_maps_update_done(); >> @@ -2733,6 +2735,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_enable(void) >> int cpu, ret = 0; >> >> cpu_maps_update_begin(); >> + rcu_expedite_gp(); >> /* Hold cpus_write_lock() for entire batch operation. */ >> cpus_write_lock(); >> cpu_smt_control = CPU_SMT_ENABLED; >> @@ -2749,6 +2752,7 @@ int cpuhp_smt_enable(void) >> cpuhp_online_cpu_device(cpu); >> } >> cpus_write_unlock(); >> + rcu_unexpedite_gp(); >> arch_smt_update(); >> cpu_maps_update_done(); >> return ret; >> diff --git a/kernel/rcu/rcu.h b/kernel/rcu/rcu.h >> index dc5d614b372c..41a0d262e964 100644 >> --- a/kernel/rcu/rcu.h >> +++ b/kernel/rcu/rcu.h >> @@ -512,8 +512,6 @@ do { \ >> static inline bool rcu_gp_is_normal(void) { return true; } >> static inline bool rcu_gp_is_expedited(void) { return false; } >> static inline bool rcu_async_should_hurry(void) { return false; } >> -static inline void rcu_expedite_gp(void) { } >> -static inline void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void) { } >> static inline void rcu_async_hurry(void) { } >> static inline void rcu_async_relax(void) { } >> static inline bool rcu_cpu_online(int cpu) { return true; } >> @@ -521,8 +519,6 @@ static inline bool rcu_cpu_online(int cpu) { return true; } >> bool rcu_gp_is_normal(void); /* Internal RCU use. */ >> bool rcu_gp_is_expedited(void); /* Internal RCU use. */ >> bool rcu_async_should_hurry(void); /* Internal RCU use. */ >> -void rcu_expedite_gp(void); >> -void rcu_unexpedite_gp(void); >> void rcu_async_hurry(void); >> void rcu_async_relax(void); >> void rcupdate_announce_bootup_oddness(void); >> -- >> 2.53.0 >> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations 2026-03-02 11:47 ` Samir M @ 2026-03-06 5:44 ` Vishal Chourasia 2026-03-06 15:12 ` Paul E. McKenney 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Vishal Chourasia @ 2026-03-06 5:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Samir M Cc: Joel Fernandes, peterz, aboorvad, boqun.feng, frederic, josh, linux-kernel, neeraj.upadhyay, paulmck, rcu, rostedt, srikar, sshegde, tglx, urezki On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 05:17:16PM +0530, Samir M wrote: > > On 27/02/26 6:43 am, Joel Fernandes wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 02:09:18PM +0530, Vishal Chourasia wrote: > > > Expedite synchronize_rcu during the SMT mode switch operation when > > > initiated via /sys/devices/system/cpu/smt/control interface > > > > > After the locking related changes in patch 1, is expediting still required? I Yes. > > am just a bit concerned that we are papering over the real issue of over > > usage of synchronize_rcu() (which IIRC we discussed in earlier versions of > > the patches that reducing the number of lock acquire/release was supposed to > > help.) At present, I am not sure about the underlying issue. So far what I have found is when synchronize_rcu() is invoked, it marks the start of a new grace period number, say A. Thread invoking synchronize_rcu() blocks until all CPUs have reported QS for GP "A". There is a rcu grace period kthread that runs periodically looping over a CPU list to figure out all CPUs have reported QS. In the trace, I find some CPUs reporting QS for sequence number way back in the past for ex. A - N where N is > 10. > > > > Could you provide more justification of why expediting these sections is > > required if the locking concerns were addressed? It would be great if you can > > provide performance numbers with only the first patch and without the second > > patch. That way we can quantify this patch. > > > > > SMT Mode | Without Patch(Base) | both patch applied | % Improvement | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------| > SMT=off | 16m 13.956s | 6m 18.435s | +61.14 % | > SMT=on | 12m 0.982s | 5m 59.576s | +50.10 % | > > When I tested the below patch independently, I did not observe any > improvements for either smt=on or smt=off. However, in the smt=off scenario, > I encountered hung task splats (with call traces), where some threads were > blocked on cpus_read_lock. Please also refer to the attached call trace > below. > Patch 1: > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260218083915.660252-4-vishalc@linux.ibm.com/ > > SMT Mode | Without Patch(Base) | just patch 1 applied | % Improvement > | > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------| > SMT=off | 16m 13.956s | 16m 9.793s | +0.43 % > | > SMT=on | 12m 0.982s | 12m 19.494s | -2.57 % > | > > > Call traces: > 12377] [ T8746] Tainted: G E 7.0.0-rc1-150700.51-default-dirty #1 > [ 1477.612384] [ T8746] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" > disables this message. > [ 1477.612389] [ T8746] task:systemd state:D stack:0 pid:1 tgid:1 > ppid:0 task_flags:0x400100 flags:0x00040000 > [ 1477.612397] [ T8746] Call Trace: > [ 1477.612399] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f4f0] [0000000000100000] 0x100000 > (unreliable) > [ 1477.612416] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f6a0] [c00000000001fe5c] > __switch_to+0x1dc/0x290 > [ 1477.612425] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f6f0] [c0000000012598ac] > __schedule+0x40c/0x1a70 > [ 1477.612433] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f840] [c00000000125af58] > schedule+0x48/0x1a0 > [ 1477.612439] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f870] [c0000000002e27b8] > percpu_rwsem_wait+0x198/0x200 > [ 1477.612445] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f8f0] [c000000001262930] > __percpu_down_read+0xb0/0x210 > [ 1477.612449] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f930] [c00000000022f400] > cpus_read_lock+0xc0/0xd0 > [ 1477.612456] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f950] [c0000000003a6398] > cgroup_procs_write_start+0x328/0x410 > [ 1477.612462] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fa00] [c0000000003a9620] > __cgroup_procs_write+0x70/0x2c0 > [ 1477.612468] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fac0] [c0000000003a98e8] > cgroup_procs_write+0x28/0x50 > [ 1477.612473] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0faf0] [c0000000003a1624] > cgroup_file_write+0xb4/0x240 > [ 1477.612478] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fb50] [c000000000853ba8] > kernfs_fop_write_iter+0x1a8/0x2a0 > [ 1477.612485] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fba0] [c000000000733d5c] > vfs_write+0x27c/0x540 > [ 1477.612491] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fc50] [c000000000734350] > ksys_write+0x80/0x150 > [ 1477.612495] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fca0] [c000000000032898] > system_call_exception+0x148/0x320 > [ 1477.612500] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fe50] [c00000000000d6a0] > system_call_common+0x160/0x2c4 > [ 1477.612506] [ T8746] ---- interrupt: c00 at 0x7fffa8f73df4 > [ 1477.612509] [ T8746] NIP: 00007fffa8f73df4 LR: 00007fffa8eb6144 CTR: > 0000000000000000 > [ 1477.612512] [ T8746] REGS: c00000000cc0fe80 TRAP: 0c00 Tainted: G > E (7.0.0-rc1-150700.51-default-dirty) > [ 1477.612515] [ T8746] MSR: 800000000000d033 <SF,EE,PR,ME,IR,DR,RI,LE> CR: > 28002288 XER: 00000000 > > Default timeout is set to 8 mins. $ grep . /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs:480 Now that cpus_write_lock is taken once, and SMT mode switch can take tens of minutes to complete and relinquish the lock, threads waiting on cpus_read_lock will be blocked for this entire duration. Although there were no splats observed for "both patch applied" case the issue still remains. regards, vishal ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations 2026-03-06 5:44 ` Vishal Chourasia @ 2026-03-06 15:12 ` Paul E. McKenney 2026-03-20 18:49 ` Vishal Chourasia 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Paul E. McKenney @ 2026-03-06 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Vishal Chourasia Cc: Samir M, Joel Fernandes, peterz, aboorvad, boqun.feng, frederic, josh, linux-kernel, neeraj.upadhyay, rcu, rostedt, srikar, sshegde, tglx, urezki On Fri, Mar 06, 2026 at 11:14:13AM +0530, Vishal Chourasia wrote: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 05:17:16PM +0530, Samir M wrote: > > > > On 27/02/26 6:43 am, Joel Fernandes wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 02:09:18PM +0530, Vishal Chourasia wrote: > > > > Expedite synchronize_rcu during the SMT mode switch operation when > > > > initiated via /sys/devices/system/cpu/smt/control interface > > > > > > > After the locking related changes in patch 1, is expediting still required? I > Yes. > > > am just a bit concerned that we are papering over the real issue of over > > > usage of synchronize_rcu() (which IIRC we discussed in earlier versions of > > > the patches that reducing the number of lock acquire/release was supposed to > > > help.) > At present, I am not sure about the underlying issue. So far what I have > found is when synchronize_rcu() is invoked, it marks the start of a new > grace period number, say A. Thread invoking synchronize_rcu() blocks > until all CPUs have reported QS for GP "A". There is a rcu grace period > kthread that runs periodically looping over a CPU list to figure out all > CPUs have reported QS. In the trace, I find some CPUs reporting QS for > sequence number way back in the past for ex. A - N where N is > 10. This can happen when a CPU goes idle for multiple grace periods, then wakes up in the middle of a later grace period. This is (or at least is supposed to be) harmless because a quiescent state was reported on that CPU's behalf when RCU noticed that it was idle. The report is quashed when RCU notices that the quiescent state being reported is for a grace period that has already completed. Grace-period counter wrap is handled by the infamous ->gpwrap field in the rcu_data structure. I have seen N having four digits, with deep embedded devices being most likely to have extremely large values of N. Thanx, Paul > > > Could you provide more justification of why expediting these sections is > > > required if the locking concerns were addressed? It would be great if you can > > > provide performance numbers with only the first patch and without the second > > > patch. That way we can quantify this patch. > > > > > > > > SMT Mode | Without Patch(Base) | both patch applied | % Improvement | > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------| > > SMT=off | 16m 13.956s | 6m 18.435s | +61.14 % | > > SMT=on | 12m 0.982s | 5m 59.576s | +50.10 % | > > > > When I tested the below patch independently, I did not observe any > > improvements for either smt=on or smt=off. However, in the smt=off scenario, > > I encountered hung task splats (with call traces), where some threads were > > blocked on cpus_read_lock. Please also refer to the attached call trace > > below. > > Patch 1: > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260218083915.660252-4-vishalc@linux.ibm.com/ > > > > SMT Mode | Without Patch(Base) | just patch 1 applied | % Improvement > > | > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------| > > SMT=off | 16m 13.956s | 16m 9.793s | +0.43 % > > | > > SMT=on | 12m 0.982s | 12m 19.494s | -2.57 % > > | > > > > > > Call traces: > > 12377] [ T8746] Tainted: G E 7.0.0-rc1-150700.51-default-dirty #1 > > [ 1477.612384] [ T8746] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" > > disables this message. > > [ 1477.612389] [ T8746] task:systemd state:D stack:0 pid:1 tgid:1 > > ppid:0 task_flags:0x400100 flags:0x00040000 > > [ 1477.612397] [ T8746] Call Trace: > > [ 1477.612399] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f4f0] [0000000000100000] 0x100000 > > (unreliable) > > [ 1477.612416] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f6a0] [c00000000001fe5c] > > __switch_to+0x1dc/0x290 > > [ 1477.612425] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f6f0] [c0000000012598ac] > > __schedule+0x40c/0x1a70 > > [ 1477.612433] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f840] [c00000000125af58] > > schedule+0x48/0x1a0 > > [ 1477.612439] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f870] [c0000000002e27b8] > > percpu_rwsem_wait+0x198/0x200 > > [ 1477.612445] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f8f0] [c000000001262930] > > __percpu_down_read+0xb0/0x210 > > [ 1477.612449] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f930] [c00000000022f400] > > cpus_read_lock+0xc0/0xd0 > > [ 1477.612456] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f950] [c0000000003a6398] > > cgroup_procs_write_start+0x328/0x410 > > [ 1477.612462] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fa00] [c0000000003a9620] > > __cgroup_procs_write+0x70/0x2c0 > > [ 1477.612468] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fac0] [c0000000003a98e8] > > cgroup_procs_write+0x28/0x50 > > [ 1477.612473] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0faf0] [c0000000003a1624] > > cgroup_file_write+0xb4/0x240 > > [ 1477.612478] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fb50] [c000000000853ba8] > > kernfs_fop_write_iter+0x1a8/0x2a0 > > [ 1477.612485] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fba0] [c000000000733d5c] > > vfs_write+0x27c/0x540 > > [ 1477.612491] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fc50] [c000000000734350] > > ksys_write+0x80/0x150 > > [ 1477.612495] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fca0] [c000000000032898] > > system_call_exception+0x148/0x320 > > [ 1477.612500] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fe50] [c00000000000d6a0] > > system_call_common+0x160/0x2c4 > > [ 1477.612506] [ T8746] ---- interrupt: c00 at 0x7fffa8f73df4 > > [ 1477.612509] [ T8746] NIP: 00007fffa8f73df4 LR: 00007fffa8eb6144 CTR: > > 0000000000000000 > > [ 1477.612512] [ T8746] REGS: c00000000cc0fe80 TRAP: 0c00 Tainted: G > > E (7.0.0-rc1-150700.51-default-dirty) > > [ 1477.612515] [ T8746] MSR: 800000000000d033 <SF,EE,PR,ME,IR,DR,RI,LE> CR: > > 28002288 XER: 00000000 > > > > > > Default timeout is set to 8 mins. > > $ grep . /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs:480 > > Now that cpus_write_lock is taken once, and SMT mode switch can take > tens of minutes to complete and relinquish the lock, threads waiting on > cpus_read_lock will be blocked for this entire duration. > > Although there were no splats observed for "both patch applied" case > the issue still remains. > > regards, > vishal ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations 2026-03-06 15:12 ` Paul E. McKenney @ 2026-03-20 18:49 ` Vishal Chourasia 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Vishal Chourasia @ 2026-03-20 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul E. McKenney Cc: Samir M, Joel Fernandes, peterz, aboorvad, boqun.feng, frederic, josh, linux-kernel, neeraj.upadhyay, rcu, rostedt, srikar, sshegde, tglx, urezki Hi Paul, Thank you for your response. Sorry, I could not revert back quicker. As I wanted to understand what's happening behind the scenes after the cpuhp kthread blocks upon execution of synchronize_rcu(). So I did a little more digging. On a 320 CPU system, (SMT8 to SMT4) operation takes >1 minute to complete. 160 CPUs are offlined one by one. In total 321 synchronize_rcu() calls are invoked taking ~125ms to finish (ftrace option sleep-time set). 3298110.851011 | 316) cpuhp/3-1614 | | synchronize_rcu() { 3298111.010125 | 316) cpuhp/3-1614 | @ 159112.9 us | } -- 3298111.020432 | 0) kworker-29406 | | synchronize_rcu() { 3298111.190132 | 0) kworker-29406 | @ 169699.4 us | } -- 3298111.191327 | 317) cpuhp/3-1619 | | synchronize_rcu() { 3298111.350129 | 317) cpuhp/3-1619 | @ 158801.9 us | } -- 3298111.360263 | 0) kworker-29406 | | synchronize_rcu() { 3298111.530137 | 0) kworker-29406 | @ 169874.5 us | } -- 3298111.531098 | 318) cpuhp/3-1624 | | synchronize_rcu() { 3298111.650128 | 318) cpuhp/3-1624 | @ 119029.8 us | } Breakdown of the time spent during a single synchronize_rcu() during the invocation of sched_cpu_deactivate callback (CPU 4 was offlined) Summary: --> cpuhp_enter (sched_cpu_deactivate) CB registration → AccWaitCB ~10ms Waiting for softirq tick on CPU 4 GP 220685125: FQS scan 1 ~10ms Tick delay + scan (all clear except CPU 260, rcu_gp_kthread is running on CPU 260) GP 220685125: wait for CPU 260 ~30msi FQS sleep interval, CPU 260 not yet reported GP 220685125: FQS scan 2 + end ~0.02ms CPU 260 clears GP 220685129: FQS scan 1 ~30ms Tick delay + full scan (same: CPU 260 holdout) GP 220685129: wait for CPU 260 ~30ms Same pattern GP 220685129: FQS scan 2 + end ~0.02ms CPU 260 clears CB invocation + wakeup ~10ms Softirq tick invokes wakeme_after_rcu destroy_sched_domains_rcu queueing ~8ms322 call_rcu() callbacks <-- cpuhp_exit (sched_cpu_deactivate) I have collected some rcu static tracepoint data, which I am currently going through. On Fri, Mar 06, 2026 at 07:12:04AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Fri, Mar 06, 2026 at 11:14:13AM +0530, Vishal Chourasia wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 05:17:16PM +0530, Samir M wrote: > > > > > > On 27/02/26 6:43 am, Joel Fernandes wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 02:09:18PM +0530, Vishal Chourasia wrote: > > > > > Expedite synchronize_rcu during the SMT mode switch operation when > > > > > initiated via /sys/devices/system/cpu/smt/control interface > > > > > > > > > After the locking related changes in patch 1, is expediting still required? I > > Yes. > > > > am just a bit concerned that we are papering over the real issue of over > > > > usage of synchronize_rcu() (which IIRC we discussed in earlier versions of > > > > the patches that reducing the number of lock acquire/release was supposed to > > > > help.) > > At present, I am not sure about the underlying issue. So far what I have > > found is when synchronize_rcu() is invoked, it marks the start of a new > > grace period number, say A. Thread invoking synchronize_rcu() blocks > > until all CPUs have reported QS for GP "A". There is a rcu grace period > > kthread that runs periodically looping over a CPU list to figure out all > > CPUs have reported QS. In the trace, I find some CPUs reporting QS for > > sequence number way back in the past for ex. A - N where N is > 10. > > This can happen when a CPU goes idle for multiple grace periods, then > wakes up in the middle of a later grace period. This is (or at least is > supposed to be) harmless because a quiescent state was reported on that > CPU's behalf when RCU noticed that it was idle. The report is quashed If it is harmless, can we consider just expediting the smt mode switch operation via smt/control file [1]. Thanks, vishalc [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260218083915.660252-6-vishalc@linux.ibm.com/ > when RCU notices that the quiescent state being reported is for a grace > period that has already completed. Grace-period counter wrap is handled > by the infamous ->gpwrap field in the rcu_data structure. > > I have seen N having four digits, with deep embedded devices being most > likely to have extremely large values of N. > > Thanx, Paul > > > > > Could you provide more justification of why expediting these sections is > > > > required if the locking concerns were addressed? It would be great if you can > > > > provide performance numbers with only the first patch and without the second > > > > patch. That way we can quantify this patch. > > > > > > > > > > > SMT Mode | Without Patch(Base) | both patch applied | % Improvement | > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------| > > > SMT=off | 16m 13.956s | 6m 18.435s | +61.14 % | > > > SMT=on | 12m 0.982s | 5m 59.576s | +50.10 % | > > > > > > When I tested the below patch independently, I did not observe any > > > improvements for either smt=on or smt=off. However, in the smt=off scenario, > > > I encountered hung task splats (with call traces), where some threads were > > > blocked on cpus_read_lock. Please also refer to the attached call trace > > > below. > > > Patch 1: > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260218083915.660252-4-vishalc@linux.ibm.com/ > > > > > > SMT Mode | Without Patch(Base) | just patch 1 applied | % Improvement > > > | > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------| > > > SMT=off | 16m 13.956s | 16m 9.793s | +0.43 % > > > | > > > SMT=on | 12m 0.982s | 12m 19.494s | -2.57 % > > > | > > > > > > > > > Call traces: > > > 12377] [ T8746] Tainted: G E 7.0.0-rc1-150700.51-default-dirty #1 > > > [ 1477.612384] [ T8746] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" > > > disables this message. > > > [ 1477.612389] [ T8746] task:systemd state:D stack:0 pid:1 tgid:1 > > > ppid:0 task_flags:0x400100 flags:0x00040000 > > > [ 1477.612397] [ T8746] Call Trace: > > > [ 1477.612399] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f4f0] [0000000000100000] 0x100000 > > > (unreliable) > > > [ 1477.612416] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f6a0] [c00000000001fe5c] > > > __switch_to+0x1dc/0x290 > > > [ 1477.612425] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f6f0] [c0000000012598ac] > > > __schedule+0x40c/0x1a70 > > > [ 1477.612433] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f840] [c00000000125af58] > > > schedule+0x48/0x1a0 > > > [ 1477.612439] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f870] [c0000000002e27b8] > > > percpu_rwsem_wait+0x198/0x200 > > > [ 1477.612445] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f8f0] [c000000001262930] > > > __percpu_down_read+0xb0/0x210 > > > [ 1477.612449] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f930] [c00000000022f400] > > > cpus_read_lock+0xc0/0xd0 > > > [ 1477.612456] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0f950] [c0000000003a6398] > > > cgroup_procs_write_start+0x328/0x410 > > > [ 1477.612462] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fa00] [c0000000003a9620] > > > __cgroup_procs_write+0x70/0x2c0 > > > [ 1477.612468] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fac0] [c0000000003a98e8] > > > cgroup_procs_write+0x28/0x50 > > > [ 1477.612473] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0faf0] [c0000000003a1624] > > > cgroup_file_write+0xb4/0x240 > > > [ 1477.612478] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fb50] [c000000000853ba8] > > > kernfs_fop_write_iter+0x1a8/0x2a0 > > > [ 1477.612485] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fba0] [c000000000733d5c] > > > vfs_write+0x27c/0x540 > > > [ 1477.612491] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fc50] [c000000000734350] > > > ksys_write+0x80/0x150 > > > [ 1477.612495] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fca0] [c000000000032898] > > > system_call_exception+0x148/0x320 > > > [ 1477.612500] [ T8746] [c00000000cc0fe50] [c00000000000d6a0] > > > system_call_common+0x160/0x2c4 > > > [ 1477.612506] [ T8746] ---- interrupt: c00 at 0x7fffa8f73df4 > > > [ 1477.612509] [ T8746] NIP: 00007fffa8f73df4 LR: 00007fffa8eb6144 CTR: > > > 0000000000000000 > > > [ 1477.612512] [ T8746] REGS: c00000000cc0fe80 TRAP: 0c00 Tainted: G > > > E (7.0.0-rc1-150700.51-default-dirty) > > > [ 1477.612515] [ T8746] MSR: 800000000000d033 <SF,EE,PR,ME,IR,DR,RI,LE> CR: > > > 28002288 XER: 00000000 > > > > > > > > > > Default timeout is set to 8 mins. > > > > $ grep . /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs > > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs:480 > > > > Now that cpus_write_lock is taken once, and SMT mode switch can take > > tens of minutes to complete and relinquish the lock, threads waiting on > > cpus_read_lock will be blocked for this entire duration. > > > > Although there were no splats observed for "both patch applied" case > > the issue still remains. > > > > regards, > > vishal ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations 2026-02-18 8:39 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations Vishal Chourasia 2026-02-27 1:13 ` Joel Fernandes @ 2026-03-25 19:10 ` Thomas Gleixner 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2026-03-25 19:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Vishal Chourasia, peterz, aboorvad Cc: boqun.feng, frederic, joelagnelf, josh, linux-kernel, neeraj.upadhyay, paulmck, rcu, rostedt, srikar, sshegde, urezki, samir, vishalc On Wed, Feb 18 2026 at 14:09, Vishal Chourasia wrote: > Expedite synchronize_rcu during the SMT mode switch operation when > initiated via /sys/devices/system/cpu/smt/control interface > > SMT mode switch operation i.e. between SMT 8 to SMT 1 or vice versa and > others are user driven operations and therefore should complete as soon > as possible. Switching SMT states involves iterating over a list of CPUs > and performing hotplug operations. It was found these transitions took > significantly large amount of time to complete particularly on > high-core-count systems. This changelog is neither explaining the underlying problem, nor explaining why expedite solves it and does not contain numbers which justify the change. Thanks, tglx ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2026-03-26 10:06 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 11+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2026-02-18 8:39 [PATCH v3 0/2] cpuhp: Improve SMT switch time via lock batching and RCU expedition Vishal Chourasia 2026-02-18 8:39 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] cpuhp: Optimize SMT switch operation by batching lock acquisition Vishal Chourasia 2026-03-25 19:09 ` Thomas Gleixner 2026-03-26 10:06 ` Vishal Chourasia 2026-02-18 8:39 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] cpuhp: Expedite RCU grace periods during SMT operations Vishal Chourasia 2026-02-27 1:13 ` Joel Fernandes 2026-03-02 11:47 ` Samir M 2026-03-06 5:44 ` Vishal Chourasia 2026-03-06 15:12 ` Paul E. McKenney 2026-03-20 18:49 ` Vishal Chourasia 2026-03-25 19:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
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