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From: Cheng-Yang Chou <yphbchou0911@gmail.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	 David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>,
	 Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
	rcu@vger.kernel.org, Ching-Chun Huang <jserv@ccns.ncku.edu.tw>,
	 Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7712@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] sched_ext: Fix exit_cpu accuracy for lockup paths
Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 18:54:59 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260506182348.G0540@cchengyang.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa80f0b1-0857-43b9-bbe3-a2e051f68240@paulmck-laptop>

Hi Paul,

On Tue, May 05, 2026 at 08:10:45AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, May 05, 2026 at 04:20:25PM +0800, Cheng-Yang Chou wrote:
> > Hi Paul, Tejun,
> > 
> > On Mon, May 04, 2026 at 08:44:48PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 05, 2026 at 12:08:20AM +0800, Cheng-Yang Chou wrote:
> > > > handle_lockup() uses raw_smp_processor_id() for exit_cpu, which is wrong
> > > > for two paths:
> > > > 
> > > > - scx_hardlockup_irq_workfn() has the hung CPU in a local variable but
> > > >   irq_work may run elsewhere; pass the local cpu explicitly.
> > > > - scx_rcu_cpu_stall() takes no CPU, recording the detector rather than
> > > >   the stalled one; add stalled_cpu to its signature and
> > > >   panic_on_rcu_stall(), threading it from print_cpu_stall() (current
> > > >   CPU) and print_other_cpu_stall() (first detected stalled CPU).
> > > > 
> > > > Add an exit_cpu parameter to handle_lockup() so callers pass the correct
> > > > CPU directly. Remove the now-unused scx_verror() macro.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Cheng-Yang Chou <yphbchou0911@gmail.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  include/linux/sched/ext.h   |  4 ++--
> > > >  kernel/rcu/tree_exp.h       |  2 +-
> > > >  kernel/rcu/tree_stall.h     | 11 +++++++----
> > > >  kernel/sched/ext.c          | 14 ++++++++------
> > > >  kernel/sched/ext_internal.h |  2 --
> > > >  5 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/sched/ext.h b/include/linux/sched/ext.h
> > > > index d05efcac794d..16bbf24089ca 100644
> > > > --- a/include/linux/sched/ext.h
> > > > +++ b/include/linux/sched/ext.h
> > > > @@ -259,7 +259,7 @@ void sched_ext_dead(struct task_struct *p);
> > > >  void print_scx_info(const char *log_lvl, struct task_struct *p);
> > > >  void scx_softlockup(u32 dur_s);
> > > >  bool scx_hardlockup(int cpu);
> > > > -bool scx_rcu_cpu_stall(void);
> > > > +bool scx_rcu_cpu_stall(int stalled_cpu);
> > > >  
> > > >  #else	/* !CONFIG_SCHED_CLASS_EXT */
> > > >  
> > > > @@ -267,7 +267,7 @@ static inline void sched_ext_dead(struct task_struct *p) {}
> > > >  static inline void print_scx_info(const char *log_lvl, struct task_struct *p) {}
> > > >  static inline void scx_softlockup(u32 dur_s) {}
> > > >  static inline bool scx_hardlockup(int cpu) { return false; }
> > > > -static inline bool scx_rcu_cpu_stall(void) { return false; }
> > > > +static inline bool scx_rcu_cpu_stall(int stalled_cpu) { return false; }
> > > 
> > > There might be more than one stalled CPU.  You could pass in a cpumask_t
> > > or similar to print all of them, or take the first or the last or
> > > some such.
> > 
> > sched_ext's exit_info carries a single s32 exit_cpu, so we can only
> > record one CPU. Would taking the first stalled CPU be acceptable as a 
> > best-effort hint, or would you prefer we pass -1 and skip the CPU field
> > entirely for the RCU stall paths?
> 
> I can tell you what information is availalble and how to collect it,
> but I must defer to you guys as to what information can be passed along
> and which of that is actually useful.  ;-)

Yeah, waiting for Tejun and the sched_ext folks to weigh in!

> 
> > > >  #endif	/* CONFIG_SCHED_CLASS_EXT */
> > > >  
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree_exp.h b/kernel/rcu/tree_exp.h
> > > > index 82cada459e5d..fa83e273a648 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree_exp.h
> > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree_exp.h
> > > > @@ -675,7 +675,7 @@ static void synchronize_rcu_expedited_wait(void)
> > > >  
> > > >  		nbcon_cpu_emergency_exit();
> > > >  
> > > > -		panic_on_rcu_stall();
> > > > +		panic_on_rcu_stall(raw_smp_processor_id());
> > > 
> > > As Tejun pointed out, this gets you whatever random CPU was running
> > > RCU's expedited grace-period processing, which is almost certainly not
> > > the stalled CPU.
> > > 
> > > In addition, in preemptible kernels, it is possible to stall not on a CPU,
> > > but on a task that was preempted within an RCU read-side critical section.
> > > (It is also possible to stall on some CPUs and on some tasks.)
> > > 
> > > So suppose that the expedited grace period is stalled not on a CPU, but
> > > instead on a task.  What do you want to do in that case?
> > > 
> > > If you only care about CPUs, then synchronize_rcu_expedited_stall()
> > > could return the number of the first stalled CPU that it encountered,
> > > or -1 if there were no CPUs doing any stalling.  If you wanted the first
> > > CPU, you could capture it within the first rcu_for_each_leaf_node()
> > > loop in that function.  Or you could pass in a cpumask_t and have
> > > synchronize_rcu_expedited_stall() fill it in, getting all the CPUs.
> > > And you could pass in an array (along with its size) to capture the PIDs
> > > of any stalled tasks, which synchronize_rcu_expedited_stall() would in
> > > turn pass down to rcu_print_task_exp_stall(), which could fill in the
> > > PIDs of the first stalled tasks in the ->blkd_tasks lists.
> > > 
> > > Whatever you collect would then be passed down to panic_on_rcu_stall()
> > > and from there to scx_rcu_cpu_stall().
> > > 
> > > Much depends on exactly what you are trying to accomplish with the
> > > additional information.
> > 
> > So, the goal here is best-effort: when sched_ext is aborted due to an
> > RCU stall, record which CPU was involved for the dump header. There is
> > no task-based filed in exit_info, so task stalls would naturally fall
> > through to -1.
> > 
> > Would you prefer:
> >  (a) pass -1 unconditionally
> >  (b) have synchronize_rcu_expedited_stall() return the first stalled CPU
> >      (or -1 if only tasks are stalled)?
> 
> Or, as Tejun suggests:
> 
>   (c) add a cpumask_t.

(c) sounds good!

> 
> I have no idea whether or not it makes sense to also add a small fixed
> array for PIDs of stalled tasks.  But there can be a very large number
> of stalled tasks, so if you choose to capture any of them, it should
> be a small fixed number of them.  (In my experience, in practice, there
> usually are not very many stalled tasks anyway.)
> 

I'd like to skip task PIDs for now, out of scope for this patch.

> > > More inline below.
> > > 
> > > 						Thanx, Paul
> > > 
> > > >  	}
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree_stall.h b/kernel/rcu/tree_stall.h
> > > > index b67532cb8770..172ac08e673d 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree_stall.h
> > > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree_stall.h
> > > > @@ -159,7 +159,7 @@ static int __init check_cpu_stall_init(void)
> > > >  early_initcall(check_cpu_stall_init);
> > > >  
> > > >  /* If so specified via sysctl, panic, yielding cleaner stall-warning output. */
> > > > -static void panic_on_rcu_stall(void)
> > > > +static void panic_on_rcu_stall(int stalled_cpu)
> > > >  {
> > > >  	static int cpu_stall;
> > > >  
> > > > @@ -167,7 +167,7 @@ static void panic_on_rcu_stall(void)
> > > >  	 * Attempt to kick out the BPF scheduler if it's installed and defer
> > > >  	 * the panic to give the system a chance to recover.
> > > >  	 */
> > > > -	if (scx_rcu_cpu_stall())
> > > > +	if (scx_rcu_cpu_stall(stalled_cpu))
> > > >  		return;
> > > >  
> > > >  	if (++cpu_stall < sysctl_max_rcu_stall_to_panic)
> > > > @@ -631,6 +631,7 @@ static void rcu_check_gp_kthread_expired_fqs_timer(void)
> > > >  static void print_other_cpu_stall(unsigned long gp_seq, unsigned long gps)
> > > >  {
> > > >  	int cpu;
> > > > +	int first_stalled_cpu = -1;
> > > >  	unsigned long flags;
> > > >  	unsigned long gpa;
> > > >  	unsigned long j;
> > > > @@ -660,6 +661,8 @@ static void print_other_cpu_stall(unsigned long gp_seq, unsigned long gps)
> > > >  			for_each_leaf_node_possible_cpu(rnp, cpu)
> > > >  				if (rnp->qsmask & leaf_node_cpu_bit(rnp, cpu)) {
> > > >  					print_cpu_stall_info(cpu);
> > > > +					if (first_stalled_cpu < 0)
> > > > +						first_stalled_cpu = cpu;
> > > 
> > > This gets the first stalled CPU.  Maybe that is also what you want for
> > > the expedited stalls?
> > > 
> > > Again, there might not be any stalled CPUs, but only stalled tasks...
> > > 
> > 
> > Understood. For print_other_cpu_stall() itself, first_stalled_cpu = -1
> > when only tasks are stalled seems acceptable since exit_cpu < 0 is
> > already handled gracefully.
> > 
> > Is there a convention I should follow here, or is -1 fine?
> 
> Using -1 for "no CPU" is fine, and that convention is already in use,
> so you should be good.  Or a cpumask_t with all being zero for no CPUs
> stalled.  ;-)
> 

Thanks for confirming, and yes, cpumask_t also sounds good!

> > > >  					ndetected++;
> > > >  				}
> > > >  		}
> > > > @@ -701,7 +704,7 @@ static void print_other_cpu_stall(unsigned long gp_seq, unsigned long gps)
> > > >  
> > > >  	nbcon_cpu_emergency_exit();
> > > >  
> > > > -	panic_on_rcu_stall();
> > > > +	panic_on_rcu_stall(first_stalled_cpu);
> > > 
> > > ...in which case panic_on_rcu_stall() gets a -1.  Which might not be what
> > > the user wants to see.

Sorry for missing this. With cpumask_t, an empty mask covers that case
more cleanly.

> > > 
> > > >  	rcu_force_quiescent_state();  /* Kick them all. */
> > > >  }
> > > > @@ -754,7 +757,7 @@ static void print_cpu_stall(unsigned long gp_seq, unsigned long gps)
> > > >  
> > > >  	nbcon_cpu_emergency_exit();
> > > >  
> > > > -	panic_on_rcu_stall();
> > > > +	panic_on_rcu_stall(smp_processor_id());
> > > 
> > > In this case, we do just have the current CPU doing the stall, so this
> > > does work fine.  (If there are more CPUs and tasks involved, there
> > > could be additional RCU CPU stall warning messages.)
> > 
> > Good to know, thanks for confirming.
> > 
> > > 
> > > >  	/*
> > > >  	 * Attempt to revive the RCU machinery by forcing a context switch.
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/ext.c b/kernel/sched/ext.c
> > > > index 48c65ac8e230..8a0b1662a75a 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/sched/ext.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/ext.c
> > > > @@ -5069,6 +5069,7 @@ bool scx_allow_ttwu_queue(const struct task_struct *p)
> > > >  
> > > >  /**
> > > >   * handle_lockup - sched_ext common lockup handler
> > > > + * @exit_cpu: CPU to record in exit_info; pass the stalled/hung CPU, not current
> > > >   * @fmt: format string
> > > >   *
> > > >   * Called on system stall or lockup condition and initiates abort of sched_ext
> > > > @@ -5078,7 +5079,7 @@ bool scx_allow_ttwu_queue(const struct task_struct *p)
> > > >   * resolve the lockup. %false if sched_ext is not enabled or abort was already
> > > >   * initiated by someone else.
> > > >   */
> > > > -static __printf(1, 2) bool handle_lockup(const char *fmt, ...)
> > > > +static __printf(2, 3) bool handle_lockup(int exit_cpu, const char *fmt, ...)
> > > >  {
> > > >  	struct scx_sched *sch;
> > > >  	va_list args;
> > > > @@ -5094,7 +5095,7 @@ static __printf(1, 2) bool handle_lockup(const char *fmt, ...)
> > > >  	case SCX_ENABLING:
> > > >  	case SCX_ENABLED:
> > > >  		va_start(args, fmt);
> > > > -		ret = scx_verror(sch, fmt, args);
> > > > +		ret = scx_vexit(sch, SCX_EXIT_ERROR, 0, exit_cpu, fmt, args);
> > > >  		va_end(args);
> > > >  		return ret;
> > > >  	default:
> > > > @@ -5114,9 +5115,9 @@ static __printf(1, 2) bool handle_lockup(const char *fmt, ...)
> > > >   * resolve the reported RCU stall. %false if sched_ext is not enabled or someone
> > > >   * else already initiated abort.
> > > >   */
> > > > -bool scx_rcu_cpu_stall(void)
> > > > +bool scx_rcu_cpu_stall(int stalled_cpu)
> > > >  {
> > > > -	return handle_lockup("RCU CPU stall detected!");
> > > > +	return handle_lockup(stalled_cpu, "RCU CPU stall detected!");
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > >  /**
> > > > @@ -5131,7 +5132,8 @@ bool scx_rcu_cpu_stall(void)
> > > >   */
> > > >  void scx_softlockup(u32 dur_s)
> > > >  {
> > > > -	if (!handle_lockup("soft lockup - CPU %d stuck for %us", smp_processor_id(), dur_s))
> > > > +	if (!handle_lockup(smp_processor_id(), "soft lockup - CPU %d stuck for %us",
> > > > +			   smp_processor_id(), dur_s))
> > > 
> > > Repeating "smp_processor_id()" in the argument list seems a bit redundant?
> > 
> > Will save to a local variable in v3.
> 
> Fair enough, though I was wondering whether adding the CPU number as
> an argument means that it should be removed from the formatted print.
> But maybe you have backwards compatibility constraints?
> 
> From your words below, I am guessing compatibility constraints.
> 

Yes, though not because of backwards compatibility. Same reason as
below, I prefer keeping as-is for readability.

> > > >  		return;
> > > >  
> > > >  	printk_deferred(KERN_ERR "sched_ext: Soft lockup - CPU %d stuck for %us, disabling BPF scheduler\n",
> > > > @@ -5150,7 +5152,7 @@ static void scx_hardlockup_irq_workfn(struct irq_work *work)
> > > >  {
> > > >  	int cpu = atomic_xchg(&scx_hardlockup_cpu, -1);
> > > >  
> > > > -	if (cpu >= 0 && handle_lockup("hard lockup - CPU %d", cpu))
> > > > +	if (cpu >= 0 && handle_lockup(cpu, "hard lockup - CPU %d", cpu))
> > > 
> > > Repeating "cpu" in the argument list seems a bit redundant?
> > 
> > The first occurrence is exit_cpu (struct field), the second is the %d
> > format argument for the readable message. BOth serve different purposes
> > so both are needed.
> 
> Got it, and fair enough!

Thanks for the review!

> 
> 							Thanx, Paul
> 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > > >  		printk_deferred(KERN_ERR "sched_ext: Hard lockup - CPU %d, disabling BPF scheduler\n",
> > > >  				cpu);
> > > >  }
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/ext_internal.h b/kernel/sched/ext_internal.h
> > > > index b4f5dd28855e..2d04f27cf7c5 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/sched/ext_internal.h
> > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/ext_internal.h
> > > > @@ -1486,8 +1486,6 @@ __printf(5, 6) bool __scx_exit(struct scx_sched *sch, enum scx_exit_kind kind,
> > > >  	__scx_exit(sch, kind, exit_code, raw_smp_processor_id(), fmt, ##args)
> > > >  #define scx_error(sch, fmt, args...)						\
> > > >  	scx_exit((sch), SCX_EXIT_ERROR, 0, fmt, ##args)
> > > > -#define scx_verror(sch, fmt, args)						\
> > > > -	scx_vexit((sch), SCX_EXIT_ERROR, 0, raw_smp_processor_id(), fmt, args)
> > > >  
> > > >  /*
> > > >   * Return the rq currently locked from an scx callback, or NULL if no rq is

-- 
Cheers,
Cheng-Yang

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-06 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-04 16:08 [PATCH v2 sched_ext/for-7.2 0/2] sched_ext: Follow-up fixes for exit_cpu accuracy Cheng-Yang Chou
2026-05-04 16:08 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] sched_ext: Normalize exit dump header to "on CPU N" Cheng-Yang Chou
2026-05-04 16:08 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] sched_ext: Fix exit_cpu accuracy for lockup paths Cheng-Yang Chou
2026-05-05  0:59   ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-05  3:44   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-05-05  8:20     ` Cheng-Yang Chou
2026-05-05  8:34       ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-06 10:18         ` Cheng-Yang Chou
2026-05-07 21:39           ` Tejun Heo
2026-05-05 15:10       ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-05-06 10:54         ` Cheng-Yang Chou [this message]
2026-05-04 21:05 ` [PATCH v2 sched_ext/for-7.2 0/2] sched_ext: Follow-up fixes for exit_cpu accuracy Tejun Heo

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