From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
Julien Thierry <julien.thierry@arm.com>,
Yuichi Ito <ito-yuichi@fujitsu.com>,
rcu@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv3 3/4] irqchip: GICv3: expose pNMI discriminator
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 11:01:23 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y25n6o70.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YZTWlbEeQ0F/WB0l@piliu.users.ipa.redhat.com>
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 10:16:53 +0000,
Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 09:53:25AM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > Hi Pingfan,
> >
> > On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 08:24:49 +0000,
> > Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Arch level code is ready to take over the nmi_enter()/nmi_exit()
> > > housekeeping.
> > >
> > > GICv3 can expose the pNMI discriminator, then simply remove the
> > > housekeeping.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Pingfan Liu <kernelfans@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
> > > Cc: Julien Thierry <julien.thierry@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Yuichi Ito <ito-yuichi@fujitsu.com>
> > > Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org
> > > To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> > > ---
> > > drivers/irqchip/irq-gic-v3.c | 18 ++++++++++++------
> > > 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/irqchip/irq-gic-v3.c b/drivers/irqchip/irq-gic-v3.c
> > > index daec3309b014..aa2bcb47b47e 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/irqchip/irq-gic-v3.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/irqchip/irq-gic-v3.c
> > > @@ -646,12 +646,8 @@ static void gic_deactivate_unhandled(u32 irqnr)
> > >
> > > static inline void gic_handle_nmi(u32 irqnr, struct pt_regs *regs)
> > > {
> > > - bool irqs_enabled = interrupts_enabled(regs);
> > > int err;
> > >
> > > - if (irqs_enabled)
> > > - nmi_enter();
> > > -
> > > if (static_branch_likely(&supports_deactivate_key))
> > > gic_write_eoir(irqnr);
> > > /*
> > > @@ -664,8 +660,6 @@ static inline void gic_handle_nmi(u32 irqnr, struct pt_regs *regs)
> > > if (err)
> > > gic_deactivate_unhandled(irqnr);
> > >
> > > - if (irqs_enabled)
> > > - nmi_exit();
> > > }
> > >
> > > static u32 do_read_iar(struct pt_regs *regs)
> > > @@ -702,6 +696,15 @@ static u32 do_read_iar(struct pt_regs *regs)
> > > return iar;
> > > }
> > >
> > > +static bool gic_is_in_nmi(void)
> > > +{
> > > + if (gic_supports_nmi() &&
> > > + unlikely(gic_read_rpr() == GICD_INT_RPR_PRI(GICD_INT_NMI_PRI)))
> > > + return true;
> >
> > I don't think this fixes anything.
> >
> > RPR stands for 'Running Priority Register', which in GIC speak reports
> > the priority of the most recently Ack'ed interrupt.
> >
> > You cannot use this to find out whether the interrupt that you /will/
> > ack is a NMI or not. Actually, you cannot find out about *any*
> > priority until you actually ack the interrupt. What you are asking for
> > is the equivalent of a crystal ball, and we're in short supply... ;-)
> >
> > The only case where ICC_RPR_EL1 will return something that is equal to
> > GICD_INT_NMI_PRI is when you are *already* in an NMI context. So
> > unless I have completely misunderstood your approach (which is always
> > possible), I don't see how this can work.
> >
>
> Thank you for the clear explanation. Also I revist this part in "GIC v3
> and v4 overview" and have a deeper understanding. (Need to spare time to
> go through all later)
>
> You totally got my idea, and I need to find a bail-out.
>
> As all kinds of PIC at least have two parts of functions: active (Ack) and
> deactive(EOI), is it possible to split handle_arch_irq into two parts?
> I.e let irqchip expose two interfaces:
> u32 (*read_irqinfo*)(struct pt_regs *regs, bool *is_nmi)
> void (*handle_arch_irq)(struct pt_regs *regs, u32 irqnr)
> to replace the current interface:
No. There is no way we will move to such a scheme. We want to isolate
the irqchip stuff in its own corner, and not propagate it into the
arch code.
If the pseudo-NMI is such a problem, I'm all for removing it *now*,
never to come back again.
> void (*handle_arch_irq)(struct pt_regs *regs)
>
> I have thought about such stuff for some days. And the benefits include:
> -1. For this bugfix (by the parameter 'is_nmi')
> -2. IPI_RESCHEDULE performance drop issue can be resolved at arch
> code level. (by irqnr - ipi_irq_base == IPI_RESCHEDULE ?)
> -3. The arch level can provide a similar loop as aic_handle_irq() in irq-apple-aic.c,
> which can save cpu by avoiding heavy context sync when irq is
> intensive.
>
> Do you think it is doable?
I don't think this is even needed, because I don't believe that the
whole thing is a real problem.
In patch #1, you are claiming that handling a NMI as an IRQ first, and
then upgrading to NMI once we know it really is an NMI is a problem.
How different is this from an IRQ being preempted by a NMI?
Your own conclusion is that the this later case isn't a problem. So
why is the former an issue?
I'm not saying that there is no issue at all, and it could well be
that you have spotted something that I cannot see yet. But if that's
the case, it means that the core code is broken as well.
M.
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Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-17 11:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-16 8:24 [PATCHv3 0/4] arm64: Fixes RCU deadlock due to a mistaken Pingfan Liu
2021-11-16 8:24 ` [PATCHv3 1/4] arm64: entry: judge nmi ealier to avoid deadlock in RCU Pingfan Liu
2021-11-17 11:38 ` Mark Rutland
2021-11-19 2:01 ` Pingfan Liu
2021-11-19 14:04 ` Mark Rutland
2021-11-16 8:24 ` [PATCHv3 2/4] arm64: entry: distinguish pNMI earlier in el0 interrupt Pingfan Liu
2021-11-16 8:24 ` [PATCHv3 3/4] irqchip: GICv3: expose pNMI discriminator Pingfan Liu
2021-11-16 9:53 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-17 10:16 ` Pingfan Liu
2021-11-17 11:01 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2021-11-19 2:38 ` Pingfan Liu
2021-11-16 8:24 ` [PATCHv3 4/4] arm64: entry: remove pNMI judgement in __el1_interrupt() path Pingfan Liu
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