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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: "Zhang, Qiang1" <qiang1.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	quic_neeraju@quicinc.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] rcu: Remove impossible wakeup rcu GP kthread action from rcu_report_qs_rdp()
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 17:27:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y861Xuoa+CrZt9PB@lothringen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEXW_YTTk_zETWy=xpL-8wF8vh6s_U5z9UyS17uBMda1BYpvug@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 10:22:19AM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > What am I missing?
> 
> That the acceleration is also done by __note_gp_changes() once the
> grace period ends anyway, so if any acceleration was missed as you
> say, it will be done anyway.
> 
> Also it is done by scheduler tick raising softirq:
> 
> rcu_pending() does this:
>         /* Has RCU gone idle with this CPU needing another grace period? */
>         if (!gp_in_progress && rcu_segcblist_is_enabled(&rdp->cblist) &&
>             !rcu_rdp_is_offloaded(rdp) &&
>             !rcu_segcblist_restempty(&rdp->cblist, RCU_NEXT_READY_TAIL))
>                 return 1;
> 
> and rcu_core():
>         /* No grace period and unregistered callbacks? */
>         if (!rcu_gp_in_progress() &&
>             rcu_segcblist_is_enabled(&rdp->cblist) && do_batch) {
>                 rcu_nocb_lock_irqsave(rdp, flags);
>                 if (!rcu_segcblist_restempty(&rdp->cblist, RCU_NEXT_READY_TAIL))
>                         rcu_accelerate_cbs_unlocked(rnp, rdp);
>                 rcu_nocb_unlock_irqrestore(rdp, flags);
>         }
> 
> So, I am not sure if you need needacc at all. Those CBs that have not
> been assigned grace period numbers will be taken care off :)

But that's only when there is no grace period pending, so it can't happen while
we report a QS.

OTOH without the needacc, those callbacks waiting to be accelerated would be
eventually processed but only on the next tick following the end of a grace
period...if none has started since then. So if someone else starts a new GP
before the current CPU, we must wait another GP, etc...

That's potentially dangerous.

And unfortunately we can't do the acceleration from __note_gp_changes() due
to lock ordering restrictions: nocb_lock -> rnp_lock

> 
> Thanks!
> 
>   -Joel

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-23 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-18  7:30 [PATCH v3] rcu: Remove impossible wakeup rcu GP kthread action from rcu_report_qs_rdp() Zqiang
2023-01-18 10:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-01-18 18:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-01-18 23:30   ` Zhang, Qiang1
2023-01-20  3:14   ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-20  3:17     ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-20  4:09     ` Zhang, Qiang1
2023-01-20  4:40       ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-20  8:19         ` Zhang, Qiang1
2023-01-20 13:27           ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-20 20:33             ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-01-20 22:35               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-01-20 23:20                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-01-20 23:04             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-01-23 15:22               ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-23 16:27                 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2023-01-23 20:54                   ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-23 21:11                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-01-24 16:58                       ` Joel Fernandes
2023-01-21  0:38             ` Zhang, Qiang1
2023-01-24 17:10               ` Joel Fernandes

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