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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rushikesh.s.kadam@intel.com, urezki@gmail.com,
	neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com, frederic@kernel.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, vineeth@bitbyteword.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/8] rcu/nocb: Wake up gp thread when flushing
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 14:37:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YrhvIqnl/n3HaHUf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220626135240.GP1790663@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 06:52:40AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 01:45:32PM +0000, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 25, 2022 at 09:06:22PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 10:50:59PM +0000, Joel Fernandes (Google) wrote:
> > > > We notice that rcu_barrier() can take a really long time. It appears
> > > > that this can happen when all CBs are lazy and the timer does not fire
> > > > yet. So after flushing, nothing wakes up GP thread. This patch forces
> > > > GP thread to wake when bypass flushing happens, this fixes the
> > > > rcu_barrier() delays with lazy CBs.
> > > 
> > > I am wondering if there is a bug in non-rcu_barrier() lazy callback
> > > processing hiding here as well?
> > 
> > I don't think so because in both nocb_try_bypass and nocb_gp_wait, we are not
> > going to an indefinite sleep after the flush. However, with rcu_barrier() ,
> > there is nothing to keep the RCU GP thread awake. That's my theory at least.
> > In practice, I have not been able to reproduce this issue with
> > non-rcu_barrier().
> > 
> > With rcu_barrier() I happen to hit it thanks to the rcuscale changes I did.
> > That's an interesting story! As I apply call_rcu_lazy() to the file table
> > code, turns out that on boot, the initram unpacking code continously triggers
> > call_rcu_lazy(). This happens apparently in a different thread than the one
> > that rcuscale is running in. In rcuscale, I did rcu_barrier() at init time
> > and this stalled for a long time to my surprise, and this patch fixed it.
> 
> Cool!
> 
> Then should this wake_nocb_gp() instead go into the rcu_barrier()
> code path?  As shown below, wouldn't we be doing some spurious wakeups?

You are right. In my testing, I don't see any issue with the extra wake up
which is going to happen anyway and my thought was why not do it so that a
future bypass flush from some other path forgets to call wake up.

I'll refine it to be rcu-barrier-only then.

thanks!

 - Joel


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-26 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-22 22:50 [PATCH v2 0/8] Implement call_rcu_lazy() and miscellaneous fixes Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-06-22 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] context_tracking: Use arch_atomic_read() in __ct_state for KASAN Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-06-22 22:58   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-22 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] rcu: Introduce call_rcu_lazy() API implementation Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-06-22 23:18   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-26  4:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-23  1:38   ` kernel test robot
2022-06-26  4:00   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-08 18:43     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-07-08 23:10       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-10  2:26     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-07-10 16:03       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-12 20:53         ` Joel Fernandes
2022-07-12 21:04           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-12 21:10             ` Joel Fernandes
2022-07-12 22:41               ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 11:53   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-06-29 17:05     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 20:29     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-29 22:01       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-06-30 14:08         ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-22 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] rcu: shrinker for lazy rcu Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-06-22 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] fs: Move call_rcu() to call_rcu_lazy() in some paths Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-06-22 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] rcu/nocb: Add option to force all call_rcu() to lazy Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-06-22 22:50 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] rcu/nocb: Wake up gp thread when flushing Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-06-26  4:06   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-26 13:45     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-26 13:52       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-26 14:37         ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2022-06-22 22:51 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] rcuscale: Add test for using call_rcu_lazy() to emulate kfree_rcu() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-06-23  2:09   ` kernel test robot
2022-06-23  3:00   ` kernel test robot
2022-06-23  8:10   ` kernel test robot
2022-06-26  4:13   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-08  4:25     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-07-08 23:06       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-12 20:27         ` Joel Fernandes
2022-07-12 20:58           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-12 21:15             ` Joel Fernandes
2022-07-12 22:41               ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-22 22:51 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] rcu/nocb: Rewrite deferred wake up logic to be more clean Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-06-22 22:51 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] rcu/kfree: Fix kfree_rcu_shrink_count() return value Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-06-26  4:17   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-27 18:56   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-06-27 20:59     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-27 21:18       ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-27 21:43         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-28 16:56           ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-28 21:13             ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-29 16:56               ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 19:47                 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-29 21:07                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-30 14:25                     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-30 15:29                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-29 16:52             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-26  3:12 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Implement call_rcu_lazy() and miscellaneous fixes Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-08  4:17   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-07-08 22:45     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-07-10  1:38       ` Joel Fernandes
2022-07-10 15:47         ` Paul E. McKenney

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