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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, RCU <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Cheung Wall <zzqq0103.hey@gmail.com>,
	Neeraj upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sony.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] rcu: Use _full() API to debug synchronize_rcu()
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 18:08:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8Htg565HnNumdxy@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z8HmH85bYNU8enJ2@pc636>

On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 05:36:47PM +0100, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 07:41:40AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 06:44:15PM +0100, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 09:26:40AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 09:12:39AM -0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > > > Hi Ulad,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I put these three patches into next (and misc.2025.02.27a) for some
> > > > > testing, hopefully it all goes well and they can make it v6.15.
> > > > > 
> > > > > A few tag changed below:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 02:16:13PM +0100, Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) wrote:
> > > > > > Switch for using of get_state_synchronize_rcu_full() and
> > > > > > poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full() pair to debug a normal
> > > > > > synchronize_rcu() call.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Just using "not" full APIs to identify if a grace period is
> > > > > > passed or not might lead to a false-positive kernel splat.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It can happen, because get_state_synchronize_rcu() compresses
> > > > > > both normal and expedited states into one single unsigned long
> > > > > > value, so a poll_state_synchronize_rcu() can miss GP-completion
> > > > > > when synchronize_rcu()/synchronize_rcu_expedited() concurrently
> > > > > > run.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To address this, switch to poll_state_synchronize_rcu_full() and
> > > > > > get_state_synchronize_rcu_full() APIs, which use separate variables
> > > > > > for expedited and normal states.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Z5ikQeVmVdsWQrdD@pc636/T/
> > > > > 
> > > > > I switch this into "Closes:" per checkpatch.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Fixes: 988f569ae041 ("rcu: Reduce synchronize_rcu() latency")
> > > > > > Reported-by: cheung wall <zzqq0103.hey@gmail.com>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) <urezki@gmail.com>
> > > > > 
> > > > > You seem to forget add Paul's Reviewed-by, so I add it in rcu/next.
> > > > > Would you or Paul double-check the Reviewed-by should be here?
> > > > 
> > > > I am good with keeping my Reviewed-by tags.
> > > > 
> > > Thanks Paul!
> > 
> > Except that I got this from overnight testing of rcu/dev on the shared
> > RCU tree:
> > 
> > WARNING: CPU: 5 PID: 14 at kernel/rcu/tree.c:1636 rcu_sr_normal_complete+0x5c/0x80
> > 
> > I see this only on TREE05.  Which should not be too surprising, given
> > that this is the scenario that tests it.  It happened within five minutes
> > on all 14 of the TREE05 runs.
> > 
> Hm.. This is not fun. I tested this on my system and i did not manage to
> trigger this whereas you do. Something is wrong.
>
We have below code to start a new GP, if we detect that processing is
starved:

<snip>
/*
 * The "start_new_poll" is set to true, only when this GP is not able
 * to handle anything and there are outstanding users. It happens when
 * the rcu_sr_normal_gp_init() function was not able to insert a dummy
 * separator to the llist, because there were no left any dummy-nodes.
 *
 * Number of dummy-nodes is fixed, it could be that we are run out of
 * them, if so we start a new pool request to repeat a try. It is rare
 * and it means that a system is doing a slow processing of callbacks.
 */
  if (start_new_poll)
    (void) start_poll_synchronize_rcu();
<snip>

we do not use a _full() version, since we need to inform rcu-gp-kthread
to initiate a new GP.

Any thoughts?

--
Uladzislau Rezki

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-28 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-27 13:16 [PATCH v4 1/3] rcutorture: Allow a negative value for nfakewriters Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-02-27 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] rcu: Update TREE05.boot to test normal synchronize_rcu() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-02-27 13:16 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] rcu: Use _full() API to debug synchronize_rcu() Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2025-02-27 17:12   ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-27 17:26     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-02-27 17:30       ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-27 17:44       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-28 15:41         ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-02-28 16:36           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-28 17:08             ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2025-02-28 18:25               ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-02-28 18:30                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-28 18:21             ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-02-28 18:24               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-28 18:38                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-02-28 19:12                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-28 19:59                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-01  1:08                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-02 10:19                         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-03-02 17:39                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-02 18:46                             ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-02 20:36                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-03 16:03                                 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-03-03  0:15                         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-03  0:17                           ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-03 17:00                             ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-03 17:07                               ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-03 17:30                                 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-03 17:59                                   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-03 18:55                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-03-03 20:02                                     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-04  3:23                           ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-04 10:52                             ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-03-04 10:56                               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-03-05  2:54                                 ` Boqun Feng
2025-03-05 15:37                                   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-05 15:24                             ` Joel Fernandes
2025-02-27 17:43     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-03-10  1:55   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-03-11 12:38     ` Uladzislau Rezki

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