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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: "Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" <urezki@gmail.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	RCU <rcu@vger.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Neeraj upadhyay <Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sony.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] rcu/kvfree: Support dynamic rcu_head for single argument objects
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 19:00:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zs9Xm6VKcpMkWbLE@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64bebc29-a007-4ebc-bf86-8c2c0a7e6bf6@suse.cz>

On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 04:58:48PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 8/28/24 13:09, Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) wrote:
> > Add a support of dynamically attaching an rcu_head to an object
> > which gets freed via the single argument of kvfree_rcu(). This is
> > used in the path, when a page allocation fails due to a high memory
> > pressure.
> > 
> > The basic idea behind of this is to minimize a hit of slow path
> > which requires a caller to wait until a grace period is passed.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) <urezki@gmail.com>
> 
> So IIUC it's a situation where we can't allocate a page, but we hope the
> kmalloc-32 slab has still free objects to give us dyn_rcu_head's before it
> would have to also make a page allocation?
> 
Yes, you understood it correctly :)

>
> So that may really be possible and there might potentially be many such
> objects, but I wonder if there's really a benefit. The system is struggling
> for memory and the single-argument caller specifically is _mightsleep so it
> could e.g. instead go direct reclaim a page rather than start depleting the
> kmalloc-32 slab, no?
> 
This is a good question about benefit and i need to say that i do not
have a strong opinion here. I post this patch to get some opinions about
it. This "dynamic attaching" we discussed with RCU folk a few years ago
and decided not to go with it. I have not found an information why.

The page request path, which is "normal/fast", can lead to a "light"
direct reclaim, if still fails, then we are in a high pressure situation.
Depleting a slab is probably not worth it, especially that the patch in
this series:

[PATCH 4/4] rcu/kvfree: Switch to expedited version in slow path

switches to more faster synchronize_rcu() version to speedup a reclaim.

+ this [PATCH 3/4] rcu/kvfree: Use polled API in a slow path
which also improves a slow path in terms of that a GP might be already
passed for the object being freed.

I am totally OK to drop this patch. This is fine to me.

--
Uladzislau Rezki

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-28 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-28 11:09 [PATCH 1/4] rcu/kvfree: Support dynamic rcu_head for single argument objects Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2024-08-28 11:09 ` [PATCH 2/4] rcu/kvfree: Add a switcher for dynamic rcu_head Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2024-08-28 11:09 ` [PATCH 3/4] rcu/kvfree: Use polled API in a slow path Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2024-08-28 11:09 ` [PATCH 4/4] rcu/kvfree: Switch to expedited version in " Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2024-08-28 14:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] rcu/kvfree: Support dynamic rcu_head for single argument objects Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-28 17:00   ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2024-08-28 18:00     ` Paul E. McKenney

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