public inbox for rcu@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] softirq: Use a dedicated thread for timer wakeups on PREEMPT_RT.
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 22:47:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZyFX6R_7HptXRdsK@pavilion.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241029135231.ScfxKhz1@linutronix.de>

Le Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 02:52:31PM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior a écrit :
> On 2024-10-28 15:01:55 [+0100], Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/interrupt.h b/include/linux/interrupt.h
> > > index 457151f9f263d..9637af78087f3 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/interrupt.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/interrupt.h
> > > @@ -616,6 +616,50 @@ extern void __raise_softirq_irqoff(unsigned int nr);
> > >  extern void raise_softirq_irqoff(unsigned int nr);
> > >  extern void raise_softirq(unsigned int nr);
> > >  
> > > +/*
> > > + * Handle timers in a dedicated thread at a low SCHED_FIFO priority instead in
> > > + * ksoftirqd as to be prefred over SCHED_NORMAL tasks.
> > > + */
> > 
> > This doesn't parse. How about, inspired by your changelog:
> …
> 
> What about this essay instead:
> 
> | With forced-threaded interrupts enabled a raised softirq is deferred to
> | ksoftirqd unless it can be handled within the threaded interrupt. This
> | affects timer_list timers and hrtimers which are explicitly marked with
> | HRTIMER_MODE_SOFT.
> | With PREEMPT_RT enabled more hrtimers are moved to softirq for processing
> | which includes all timers which are not explicitly marked HRTIMER_MODE_HARD.
> | Userspace controlled timers (like the clock_nanosleep() interface) is divided
> | into two categories: Tasks with elevated scheduling policy including
> | SCHED_{FIFO|RR|DL} and the remaining scheduling policy. The tasks with the
> | elevated scheduling policy are woken up directly from the HARDIRQ while all
> | other wake ups are delayed to so softirq and so to ksoftirqd.

First "so" is intended?

> |
> | The ksoftirqd runs at SCHED_OTHER policy at which it should remain since it
> | handles the softirq in an overloaded situation (not handled everything
> | within its last run).
> | If the timers are handled at SCHED_OTHER priority then they competes with all
> | other SCHED_OTHER tasks for CPU resources are possibly delayed.
> | Moving timers softirqs to a low priority SCHED_FIFO thread instead ensures
> | that timer are performed before scheduling any SCHED_OTHER thread.

Works for me!

> And with this piece of text I convinced myself to also enable this in
> the forced-threaded case.

Yes, that makes sense.

Thanks.

> > Thanks.
> 
> Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-29 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-24 14:55 [PATCH v2 0/3] softirq: Use a dedicated thread for timer wakeups on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-24 14:55 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] hrtimer: Use __raise_softirq_irqoff() to raise the softirq Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-28 13:11   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-24 14:55 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] timers: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-28 13:13   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-24 14:55 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] softirq: Use a dedicated thread for timer wakeups on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-28 14:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 13:52     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-29 21:47       ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2024-10-30 10:02         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=ZyFX6R_7HptXRdsK@pavilion.home \
    --to=frederic@kernel.org \
    --cc=anna-maria@linutronix.de \
    --cc=bigeasy@linutronix.de \
    --cc=dave@stgolabs.net \
    --cc=josh@joshtriplett.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@kernel.org \
    --cc=paulmck@kernel.org \
    --cc=rcu@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox