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From: Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	frederic@kernel.org, neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com, urezki@gmail.com,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	stable@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] rcu-tasks: Avoid using mod_timer() in call_rcu_tasks_generic()
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 08:17:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acFZem9MNHRXin2h@tardis.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260321170321.32257-1-boqun@kernel.org>

On Sat, Mar 21, 2026 at 10:03:21AM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> The following deadlock is possible:
> 
> __mod_timer()
>   lock_timer_base()
>     raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&base->lock)   <- base->lock ACQUIRED
>   trace_timer_start()                    <- tp_btf/timer_start fires here
>     [probe_timer_start BPF program]
>       bpf_task_storage_delete()
>         bpf_selem_unlink(selem, false)   <- reuse_now=false
>           bpf_selem_free(false)
>             call_rcu_tasks_trace()
>               call_rcu_tasks_generic()
>                 raw_spin_trylock(rtpcp)  <- succeeds (different lock)
>                 mod_timer(lazy_timer)    <- lazy_timer is on this CPU's base
>                   lock_timer_base()
>                     raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&base->lock) <- SAME LOCK -> DEADLOCK
> 
> because BPF can instrument a place while the timer base lock is held.
> Fix it by using an intermediate irq_work.
> 
> Further, because a "timer base->lock" to a "rtpcp lock" lock dependency
> can be establish in this way, we cannot mod_timer() with a rtpcp lock
> held. Fix that as well.
> 
> Fixes: d119357d0743 ("rcu-tasks: Treat only synchronous grace periods urgently")
> Cc: stable@kernel.org
> Signed-off-by: Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>
> ---
> This is a follow-up of [1], and yes we can trigger a whole system
> deadlock freeze easily with (even non-recursively) tracing the
> timer_start tracepoint. I have a reproduce at:
> 
> 	https://github.com/fbq/rcu_tasks_deadlock
> 
> Be very careful, since it'll freeze your system when run it.
> 
> I've tested it on 6.17 and 6.19 and can confirm the deadlock could be
> triggered. So this is an old bug if it's a bug.
> 
> It's up to BPF whether this is a bug or not, because it has existed for
> a while and nobody seems to get hurt(?).
> 

Ping BPF ;-) I know this was sent in a Saturday and only 2 days have
passed, but we are at the decision point about how hard/urgent we should
fix these "BPF deadlocks": As this patch shows, the deadlocks existed
before v7.0 (i.e. before SRCU switches). And yes, ideally we should fix
all of them, but given we are close to v7.0 release, I would like to
focus the new issue that SRCU introduces, because that one would likely
affect SCHED_EXT. Thoughts?

Regards,
Boqun

> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/rcu/2b3848e9-3b11-41b8-8c44-5de28d4a4433@paulmck-laptop/
> 
>  kernel/rcu/tasks.h | 26 +++++++++++++++++++++++---
>  1 file changed, 23 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tasks.h b/kernel/rcu/tasks.h
> index 2b55e6acf3c1..d9d5b7d5944e 100644
> --- a/kernel/rcu/tasks.h
> +++ b/kernel/rcu/tasks.h
> @@ -46,6 +46,7 @@ struct rcu_tasks_percpu {
>  	unsigned int urgent_gp;
>  	struct work_struct rtp_work;
>  	struct irq_work rtp_irq_work;
> +	struct irq_work timer_irq_work;
>  	struct rcu_head barrier_q_head;
>  	struct list_head rtp_blkd_tasks;
>  	struct list_head rtp_exit_list;
> @@ -134,6 +135,7 @@ static void call_rcu_tasks_iw_wakeup(struct irq_work *iwp);
>  static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct rcu_tasks_percpu, rt_name ## __percpu) = {			\
>  	.lock = __RAW_SPIN_LOCK_UNLOCKED(rt_name ## __percpu.cbs_pcpu_lock),		\
>  	.rtp_irq_work = IRQ_WORK_INIT_HARD(call_rcu_tasks_iw_wakeup),			\
> +	.timer_irq_work = IRQ_WORK_INIT(call_rcu_tasks_mod_timer_lazy),			\
>  };											\
>  static struct rcu_tasks rt_name =							\
>  {											\
> @@ -321,11 +323,19 @@ static void call_rcu_tasks_generic_timer(struct timer_list *tlp)
>  		if (!rtpcp->urgent_gp)
>  			rtpcp->urgent_gp = 1;
>  		needwake = true;
> -		mod_timer(&rtpcp->lazy_timer, rcu_tasks_lazy_time(rtp));
> +		/*
> +		 * We cannot mod_timer() here because "timer base lock ->
> +		 * rcu_node lock" lock dependencies can be establish by having
> +		 * a BPF instrument at timer_start(), and that means deadlock
> +		 * if we mod_timer() here. So delay the mod_timer() when we are
> +		 * out of the lock critical section.
> +		 */
>  	}
>  	raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore_rcu_node(rtpcp, flags);
> -	if (needwake)
> +	if (needwake) {
> +		mod_timer(&rtpcp->lazy_timer, rcu_tasks_lazy_time(rtp));
>  		rcuwait_wake_up(&rtp->cbs_wait);
> +	}
>  }
>  
>  // IRQ-work handler that does deferred wakeup for call_rcu_tasks_generic().
> @@ -338,6 +348,16 @@ static void call_rcu_tasks_iw_wakeup(struct irq_work *iwp)
>  	rcuwait_wake_up(&rtp->cbs_wait);
>  }
>  
> +static void call_rcu_tasks_mod_timer_lazy(struct irq_work *iwp)
> +{
> +	struct rcu_tasks *rtp;
> +	struct rcu_tasks_percpu *rtpcp = container_of(iwp, struct rcu_tasks_percpu, timer_irq_work);
> +	rtp = rtpcp->rtpp;
> +
> +	if (!timer_pending(&rtpcp->lazy_timer))
> +		mod_timer(&rtpcp->lazy_timer, rcu_tasks_lazy_time(rtp));
> +}
> +
>  // Enqueue a callback for the specified flavor of Tasks RCU.
>  static void call_rcu_tasks_generic(struct rcu_head *rhp, rcu_callback_t func,
>  				   struct rcu_tasks *rtp)
> @@ -377,7 +397,7 @@ static void call_rcu_tasks_generic(struct rcu_head *rhp, rcu_callback_t func,
>  		   (rcu_segcblist_n_cbs(&rtpcp->cblist) == rcu_task_lazy_lim);
>  	if (havekthread && !needwake && !timer_pending(&rtpcp->lazy_timer)) {
>  		if (rtp->lazy_jiffies)
> -			mod_timer(&rtpcp->lazy_timer, rcu_tasks_lazy_time(rtp));
> +			irq_work_queue(&rtpcp->timer_irq_work);
>  		else
>  			needwake = rcu_segcblist_empty(&rtpcp->cblist);
>  	}
> -- 
> 2.50.1 (Apple Git-155)
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-23 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-17 13:34 Next-level bug in SRCU implementation of RCU Tasks Trace + PREEMPT_RT Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 10:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 11:49   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 14:43     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 15:43       ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 16:04         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 16:32           ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 16:42             ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-18 18:45               ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 16:47             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 18:48               ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-19  8:55                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-19 10:05                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-19 10:43                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-19 10:51                       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-18 15:51       ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-18 18:42         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 20:04           ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-18 20:11             ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-03-18 20:25               ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-18 21:52             ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-18 21:55               ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-18 22:15                 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-18 22:52                   ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-18 23:27                     ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19  1:08                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19  9:03                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-19 16:27                           ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 16:33                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-19 16:48                               ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 16:59                                 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-03-19 17:27                                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 18:41                                     ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-03-19 20:14                                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 20:21                                         ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-19 20:39                                           ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 15:34                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-20 15:59                                               ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 16:24                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-20 16:57                                                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 17:54                                                     ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-20 18:14                                                       ` [PATCH] rcu: Use an intermediate irq_work to start process_srcu() Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 19:18                                                         ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-20 20:47                                                         ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-20 20:54                                                           ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 21:00                                                             ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-20 21:02                                                               ` Andrea Righi
2026-03-20 21:06                                                                 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 22:29                                                           ` [PATCH v2] " Boqun Feng
2026-03-23 21:09                                                             ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-23 22:18                                                               ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-23 22:50                                                                 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-24 11:27                                                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-03-24 14:56                                                               ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-24 14:56                                                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-03-24 17:36                                                                 ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-24 18:40                                                                   ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-24 19:23                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21  4:27                                                         ` [PATCH] " Zqiang
2026-03-21 18:15                                                           ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-21 10:10                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21 17:15                                                           ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-21 17:41                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21 18:06                                                               ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-21 19:31                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21 19:45                                                                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-21 20:07                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21 20:08                                                                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-22 10:09                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-22 16:16                                                                           ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-22 17:09                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-22 17:31                                                                               ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-22 17:44                                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-22 18:17                                                                                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-22 19:47                                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-22 20:26                                                                                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-23  7:50                                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-20 18:20                                                       ` Next-level bug in SRCU implementation of RCU Tasks Trace + PREEMPT_RT Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 23:11                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21  3:29                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-21 17:03                                                   ` [RFC PATCH] rcu-tasks: Avoid using mod_timer() in call_rcu_tasks_generic() Boqun Feng
2026-03-23 15:17                                                     ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2026-03-23 20:37                                                       ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-23 21:50                                                       ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-03-23 22:13                                                         ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 16:15                                         ` Next-level bug in SRCU implementation of RCU Tasks Trace + PREEMPT_RT Boqun Feng
2026-03-20 16:24                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-19 17:02                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-19 17:44                                   ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 18:42                                     ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-19 20:20                                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 20:26                                         ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-19 20:45                                           ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-19 10:02                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-19 14:34                           ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19 16:10                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-03-18 23:56                   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-03-19  0:26                     ` Zqiang
2026-03-19  1:13                       ` Boqun Feng
2026-03-19  2:47                         ` Joel Fernandes

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