From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
To: "Harry Yoo (Oracle)" <harry@kernel.org>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] slab,rcu: disable KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED for strict grace period
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 09:34:40 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <de209b21-a39a-4c8e-8f13-458d095c1325@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acOa8ErxLgbj0Uer@hyeyoo>
On 3/25/26 09:21, Harry Yoo (Oracle) wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2026 at 08:50:07AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>> On 3/24/26 22:35, Jann Horn wrote:
>> > Disable CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED in CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD builds
>> > so that kernel fuzzers have an easier time finding use-after-free involving
>> > kfree_rcu().
>> >
>> > The intent behind CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD is that RCU should invoke
>> > callbacks and free objects as soon as possible (at a large performance
>> > cost) so that kernel fuzzers and such have an easier time detecting
>> > use-after-free bugs in objects with RCU lifetime.
>> >
>> > CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED is a performance optimization that queues
>> > RCU-freed objects in ways that CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD can't
>> > expedite; for example, the following testcase doesn't trigger a KASAN splat
>> > when CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED is enabled:
>> > ```
>> > struct foo_struct {
>> > struct rcu_head rcu;
>> > int a;
>> > };
>> > struct foo_struct *foo = kmalloc(sizeof(*foo),
>> > GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_NOFAIL | __GFP_ZERO);
>> >
>> > pr_info("%s: calling kfree_rcu()\n", __func__);
>> > kfree_rcu(foo, rcu);
>> > msleep(10);
>> > pr_info("%s: start UAF access\n", __func__);
>> > READ_ONCE(foo->a);
>> > pr_info("%s: end UAF access\n", __func__);
>> > ```
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
>>
>> Hm but with 7.0 we have sheaves everywhere including kmalloc caches, and
>> there's a percpu rcu_free sheaf collecting kfree_rcu'd objects.
>
> Right, but only when CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED=y
>
>> Only when
>> it's full it's submitted to call_rcu() where the callback rcu_free_sheaf()
>> runs slab_free_hook() including kasan hooks etc. If there's nothing filling
>> the rcu_free sheaf, the objects can sit there possibly indefinitely.
>
> Right.
>
>> That means CONFIG_KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED now handles only the rare cases where
>> kfree_rcu() to the rcu_free sheaf fails (and I still owe it to Ulad to do
>> something about this).
>
> Right.
>
>> So to complete the intent of this patch, we should perhaps also skip the
>> rcu_free sheaf with RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD? (or with !KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED
>> perhaps as it's also a form of batching).
>
> Maybe I'm missing something, but...
>
> by making KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED depend on !RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD,
> selecting RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD disables all uses of rcu_free sheaves?
>
> kvfree_call_rcu() implementation on !KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED does not call
> kfree_rcu_sheaf().
Ah yeah, I missed that there are two kvfree_call_rcu() implementations and
kfree_rcu_sheaf() is only used in the batched one. Sorry for the noise.
Will queue the patch
>> But then I wonder if the testcase in the changelog appeared to be fixed with
>> this patch on a 7.0-rcX kernel (base-commit: below is rc3+) because by my
>> understanding it shouldn't have been. (unless there happened to be enough
>> kfree_rcu() activity on that cpu+kmalloc cache combination, so that the
>> rcu_free sheaf got submitted withing that msleep(10)).
>>
>> > ---
>> > mm/Kconfig | 1 +
>> > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
>> > index ebd8ea353687..67a72fe89186 100644
>> > --- a/mm/Kconfig
>> > +++ b/mm/Kconfig
>> > @@ -172,6 +172,7 @@ config SLUB
>> > config KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED
>> > def_bool y
>> > depends on !SLUB_TINY && !TINY_RCU
>> > + depends on !RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD
>> >
>> > config SLUB_TINY
>> > bool "Configure for minimal memory footprint"
>> >
>> > ---
>> > base-commit: b29fb8829bff243512bb8c8908fd39406f9fd4c3
>> > change-id: 20260324-kasan-kfree-rcu-4e7f490237ef
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
>> >
>>
>>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-25 8:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-24 21:35 [PATCH] slab,rcu: disable KVFREE_RCU_BATCHED for strict grace period Jann Horn
2026-03-25 3:00 ` David Rientjes
2026-03-25 3:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2026-03-25 5:54 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-03-25 7:50 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-25 8:21 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-03-25 8:34 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) [this message]
2026-03-25 8:41 ` Harry Yoo (Oracle)
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