From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christian Stroetmann OntoLab Subject: Re: reiser4 inclusion? Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:58:50 +0200 Message-ID: <49F2523A.70604@ontolab.com> References: <49EAFBBB.5050400@ontolab.com> <49EB1E3F.1020905@gmail.com> <542E227E-E31D-496C-93FB-19393133297F@MailNewsRSS.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <542E227E-E31D-496C-93FB-19393133297F@MailNewsRSS.com> Sender: reiserfs-devel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" To: Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle , reiserfs-devel Hello Jason, > > Edward, > >> Please, >> don't flood in this mailing list. >> Go away! > > You are totally out of line here. > > First, please following mailing list etiquette and don't top post > > Second, Christian, like all others, have a right to post here. You may > not agree with his posts (or what he is doing with OntoFS), but that > does not give you the right to tell him to go away. > > Third, if the community only relied on you to progress reiserfs, it > has been years at this point and nothing significant. it is basically > somewhat dead. > > If there was more co-operation and less fighting, perhaps forking > would not need to be an issue, but with your head up your ass no > progress gets made, no leaps forward, nada, zip, zilch. > > -Jason > >> Christian Stroetmann OntoLab wrote: >>> Dear Christian; >>> You wrote: >>>> With still no project page in sight, >>> Under the label of my company and taking the full risk of losing >>> reputation, in contrast to other well known Linux distributions and >>> former supporters of R....4 fs which (partly) jumped off the train, I >>> made the following offers in the past: >>> 1. Support the R4 fs under the name R4. >>> 2. Set up a project page or, on the wish of the developement >>> community, a wiki. >>> 3. Under an other name, which I've choosen and I'm not allowed to name >>> in this mailinglist, I've have even developed another kind of file >>> system. >>> >>> The results were: >>> To 1.: No echo. >>> To 2.: No replay. >>> To 3.: I got a kindly "Go away" advice. >>> And to give it the rest: I do have alternatives and if some persons >>> think, that they can gain something by their destructive attitude, >>> than I have to say: Okay, have a nice day. >>> >>> Being constructive, I think we need a new projcet management, maybe a >>> new maintainer, or some bytes for archiving the digital waste. >>>> I find it hard to track[0] the progress of the work being towards an >>>> inclusion of reiser4 into mainline. Unable to help out with real >>>> code, I look at the reiser4-for-2.6.29 diffstat (sans the fs/reiser4 >>>> parts!) and see: >>>> >>>> Documentation/Changes | 12 >>>> Documentation/filesystems/reiser4.txt | 75 >>>> fs/Kconfig | 1 >>>> fs/Makefile | 1 >>>> fs/buffer.c | 9 >>>> fs/fs-writeback.c | 5 >>>> include/linux/fs.h | 3 >>>> include/linux/mm.h | 2 >>>> mm/filemap.c | 4 >>>> mm/page-writeback.c | 48 >>>> So, with 4 of them being "just" documentation and build magic, I take >>>> it that we're 6 files and less than 100 lines of code away from at >>>> least putting this file system into the new staging/ tree perhaps? >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>> I found it more and more jokeless, what is going on around this fs. >>> Btw.: I can't and I won't follow the claims and resitances made by Al >>> Viro and other hard core coders against R4 and HFS+, especially the >>> arguments in the hardlink subject. >>>> Thanks, >>>> Christian. >>>> >>>> [0] http://tinyurl.com/dexfq9 >>>> >>> Sincerely >>> Christian *<:o) >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe >>> reiserfs-devel" in >>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >>> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe >> reiserfs-devel" in >> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> I would really like to know, what was and is going on behind the scenes. If Mr. Shishkin wants some kind of monetary support for his work, then I have to say: "Sorry, but not this way" and "The time is over since two years". That means no money! You got me? Good. Christian *<:o)