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From: Edward Shishkin <edward.shishkin@gmail.com>
To: Ivan Shapovalov <intelfx100@gmail.com>
Cc: "Dušan Čolić" <dusanc@gmail.com>,
	reiserfs-devel <reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCHv2 0/5] reiser4: discard support: initial implementation.
Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 18:43:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53691148.6060405@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4205015.az6QQplYXK@intelfx-laptop>

On 05/06/2014 11:56 AM, Ivan Shapovalov wrote:
> Hi Dušan,
>
> On Tuesday 06 May 2014 at 09:09:12, Dušan Čolić wrote:	
>> What about trim performance penalty? AFAIK all devices that are below
>> SATA3.1 have pretty long time to execute discard command so if we execute
>> discard at every commit time we could make large stalls to the system. Can
>> we batch them
> This is already happening. Other filesystems issue discard requests directly
> when blocks are deallocated, once per each extent. We delay them until a
> transaction is committed, in hope to be able to merge small extents into large
> ones and issue a lesser count of discard requests.


I would also add that discard extents issued by reiser4 are of the best
quality, because we maintain 2 exemplars of bitmap. Allocation always
happens on the base of working bitmap, where discard extents are still
marked as busy. So we don't "spoil" them..

Edward.


> Any penalties remaining with this approach are inherent; if one can't tolerate
> these, they just should not use "realtime" TRIM, i. e. not pass 'discard'
> mount option.
>
> There is other way around: fstrim utility and FITRIM ioctl, which tells
> filesystem to do a "cleaning sweep" and discard every free block at once. This
> is to be implemented shortly.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-06 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-06  5:30 [RFC] [PATCHv2 0/5] reiser4: discard support: initial implementation Ivan Shapovalov
2014-05-06  5:30 ` [RFC] [PATCHv2 1/5] reiser4: discard support: make space_allocator's check_blocks() reusable Ivan Shapovalov
2014-05-06  5:30 ` [RFC] [PATCHv2 2/5] reiser4: discard support: initial implementation using extent lists Ivan Shapovalov
2014-05-06  5:30 ` [RFC] [PATCHv2 3/5] reiser4: discard support: enable discard functionality through a mount option Ivan Shapovalov
2014-05-06  5:30 ` [RFC] [PATCHv2 4/5] reiser4: discard support: add assertions to all code written within this feature Ivan Shapovalov
2014-05-06  5:30 ` [RFC] [PATCHv2 5/5] reiser4: discard support: downgrade all reiser4_log() to reiser4_debug() Ivan Shapovalov
     [not found] ` <CADW=+3=B7aNyBdKwhHS_r8bMO+ZrjK5WNbdEXVXfGvRP7KQK-g@mail.gmail.com>
2014-05-06  9:56   ` [RFC] [PATCHv2 0/5] reiser4: discard support: initial implementation Ivan Shapovalov
2014-05-06 16:43     ` Edward Shishkin [this message]
2014-05-07  7:17 ` Ivan Shapovalov

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