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From: Edward Shishkin <edward.shishkin@gmail.com>
To: Ivan Shapovalov <intelfx100@gmail.com>, reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: reiser4: FITRIM ioctl -- how to grab the space?
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:23:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53EF14EC.1070101@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53EF11C8.20209@gmail.com>


On 08/16/2014 10:09 AM, Edward Shishkin wrote:
>
> On 08/16/2014 02:44 AM, Ivan Shapovalov wrote:
>> On Monday 11 August 2014 at 13:39:12, Ivan Shapovalov wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> I've meant "grabbing all space and then allocating all space" -- 
>>>>> so there won't
>>>>> be multiple grabs or multiple atoms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then all processes grabbing space with BA_CAN_COMMIT will wait for 
>>>>> the discard
>>>>> atom to commit.
>>>>
>>>> It seems such waiting will screw up the system. No?
>>> I was afraid of such situations, but how would that happen? The 
>>> discard atom's
>>> commit will always be able to proceed as it doesn't grab space at all.
>>>
>>>>>    (Actually, there is a small race window between grabbing space
>>>>> and creating an atom...)
>>>>
>>>> Which one?
>>> BA_CAN_COMMIT machinery does wait only for atoms, not for contexts. If
>>> process X happens to grab space between us grabbing space and 
>>> creating an atom,
>>> it will get -ENOSPC even with BA_CAN_COMMIT.
>
>
> I still don't see any "races" here. How atom creation is related to 
> grabbing
> space? Are we talking about races in the existing code? f so, please show
> the racing paths..
>
>
>>>
>>>>> The only problem is to wait for (sbinfo->block_count == 
>>>>> sbinfo->blocks_used +
>>>>> sbinfo->blocks_free) condition, i. e. until no blocks are reserved 
>>>>> in any form,
>>>>> and then to grab all space atomically wrt. reaching this condition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, if this is not feasible, I'll go with the multiple atoms 
>>>>> approach. I
>>>>> just want to make sure.
>>>>>
>> ...so, I've almost given up implementing this :)
>
>
> great!
>
>
>>
>> In kernel there is a read-write semaphore implementation called rwsem.
>> I've added a per-superblock instance of rwsem with following semantics:
>>
>> - when count of grabbed+special (not free or used) blocks is 
>> increased by any
>>    means, the semaphore is taken for reading before taking spinlock and
>>    modifying counters
>>
>> - if the counters already were non-zero, the semaphore has been 
>> already taken
>>    for reading (reader count > 1) and it is released once while under 
>> spinlock
>>    (so that reader count always stays at 1)
>>
>> - when count of grabbed+special blocks is decreased and drops to 
>> zero, the
>>    semaphore is released once (so reader count drops to 0 unless 
>> there is a race
>>    with increasing the count)
>>
>> - on second try of BA_CAN_COMMIT grabbing (if there was not enough 
>> space),
>>    the semaphore is taken for writing instead of for reading, ensuring
>>    that every block is either permanently used or free. The write 
>> lock is
>>    converted to read lock after grabbing required space.
>>
>> This "almost" works. The main problem is that Linux rwsem implementation
>> is write-biased: that is, if there are writers waiting, readers count 
>> can't
>> increase. That is, a process must not take a semaphore for reading in 
>> second
>> time if it is responsible for releasing the "first time" reader.
>>
>> The comment in original rwsem implementation by Andrew Morton states 
>> following:
>> "It is NOT legal for one task to down_read() an rwsem multiple times."
>>
>>    reader1     writer1
>> ------------------------
>> down_read()
>>              down_write()
>>              up_write()
>> down_read()
>> up_read()
>> up_read()
>>
>> This is a deadlock: reader1's down_read() blocks on writer1's 
>> up_write(),
>> while writer1's down_write() blocks on reader1's second up_read().
>>
>> A force grab (or a grab preceded by grab_space_enable(), or a 
>> used2something)
>> deadlocks 100% in presence of waiting writers, and so does the 
>> corresponding
>> transaction commit.
>>
>> So I need to find a way to take rwsem in a read-biased mode... Any 
>> advice is
>> accepted, including "give up with adding of yet another lock and go with
>> multiple transactions" :)
>
>
> IMHO this is too complicated.
>
> Why don't you want to grab, say, 20M per iteration?
> It should work without any problems, just maintain a
> counter of blocks allocated in the iteration..


add the counter to the struct reiser4_context and
set it to zero at the beginning of every iteration.
use get_current_context() to access the counter.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-16  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-31 20:47 reiser4: FITRIM ioctl -- how to grab the space? Ivan Shapovalov
2014-07-31 22:03 ` Edward Shishkin
2014-07-31 22:16   ` Ivan Shapovalov
     [not found]     ` <53DACEE9.8000802@gmail.com>
2014-08-10 18:52       ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-10 19:48         ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-10 20:37           ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-10 23:29             ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-11  9:39               ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16  0:44                 ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16  8:09                   ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-16  8:23                     ` Edward Shishkin [this message]
2014-08-16 11:27                       ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16 13:35                         ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-16 17:05                           ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16 20:13                             ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-16 11:17                     ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16 12:15                       ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-16 17:02                         ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16 19:54                           ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-02 16:40   ` Edward Shishkin

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