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From: Edward Shishkin <edward.shishkin@gmail.com>
To: Ivan Shapovalov <intelfx100@gmail.com>
Cc: reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: reiser4: FITRIM ioctl -- how to grab the space?
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:15:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53EF4B61.4080906@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1651199.WS1bpHXlZS@intelfx-laptop>


On 08/16/2014 01:17 PM, Ivan Shapovalov wrote:
> On Saturday 16 August 2014 at 10:09:44, Edward Shishkin wrote:	
>> On 08/16/2014 02:44 AM, Ivan Shapovalov wrote:
>>> On Monday 11 August 2014 at 13:39:12, Ivan Shapovalov wrote:	
>>>> [...]
>>>>>> I've meant "grabbing all space and then allocating all space" -- so there won't
>>>>>> be multiple grabs or multiple atoms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then all processes grabbing space with BA_CAN_COMMIT will wait for the discard
>>>>>> atom to commit.
>>>>> It seems such waiting will screw up the system. No?
>>>> I was afraid of such situations, but how would that happen? The discard atom's
>>>> commit will always be able to proceed as it doesn't grab space at all.
>>>>
>>>>>>     (Actually, there is a small race window between grabbing space
>>>>>> and creating an atom...)
>>>>> Which one?
>>>> BA_CAN_COMMIT machinery does wait only for atoms, not for contexts. If
>>>> process X happens to grab space between us grabbing space and creating an atom,
>>>> it will get -ENOSPC even with BA_CAN_COMMIT.
>>
>> I still don't see any "races" here. How atom creation is related to grabbing
>> space? Are we talking about races in the existing code? f so, please show
>> the racing paths..
> Well, this is not a race per se - it does not involve locking. But it is
> a race-like behavior.
>
> taskA                                 taskB
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> grab very much space

Ok, assume A wants X blocks.

>                                          grab some space with BA_CAN_COMMIT

Assume B wants Y blocks.

> create an atom using the grabbed space


Please, specify which code is executing at this point.

Anyway, we don't need any reservation to _create_ an atom.
Reservation is expended when allocating blocks on the low level
(bitmaps). Reservation (grabbing space) is needed to avoid hard
ENOSPC (=no free bits in bitmaps) in situation, when we can not
fail (e.g. flush, commit, etc..,)


>
> In this case, the taskB's grab will fail though it could wait for taskA's
> not yet created atom.


I still don't see why somebody should fail if X+Y < free-space-on-disk.
If X+Y > free-space, then yes, someone will fail, and it is correct.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-16 12:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-31 20:47 reiser4: FITRIM ioctl -- how to grab the space? Ivan Shapovalov
2014-07-31 22:03 ` Edward Shishkin
2014-07-31 22:16   ` Ivan Shapovalov
     [not found]     ` <53DACEE9.8000802@gmail.com>
2014-08-10 18:52       ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-10 19:48         ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-10 20:37           ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-10 23:29             ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-11  9:39               ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16  0:44                 ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16  8:09                   ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-16  8:23                     ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-16 11:27                       ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16 13:35                         ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-16 17:05                           ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16 20:13                             ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-16 11:17                     ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16 12:15                       ` Edward Shishkin [this message]
2014-08-16 17:02                         ` Ivan Shapovalov
2014-08-16 19:54                           ` Edward Shishkin
2014-08-02 16:40   ` Edward Shishkin

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