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From: Jose R R <Jose.r.r@metztli-it.com>
To: Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net>
Cc: debian-boot@lists.debian.org,
	ReiserFS Development List <reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Reiser4-enabled Debian Unstable (Sid) netboot iso
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 00:34:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAM12Q5SHuUis4ayd6dtJSpHrcxfpXUWYrkyQ8Uj16t_UGMoEdg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160111190158.58dc383f@multivac.localdomain>

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:22:21 +0100
> Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> wrote:
>
>> Adam Wilson <moxalt@riseup.net> (2016-01-11):
>> > This is somewhat off-topic, but why was ReiserFS support removed
>> > from d-i? I am a big fan of Reiser3 personally, but I use XFS now.
>>
>> In linux's changelog:
>> | linux (3.10.1-1) unstable; urgency=low
>> | […]
>> |   * udeb: Remove obsolete and unsupported drivers and filesystems
>> |     - Remove ppa from scsi-modules
>> |     - Remove floppy-modules, irda-modules, parport-modules,
>> plip-modules, |       qnx4-modules, reiserfs-modules, ufs-modules
>> | […]
>> |  -- Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>  Tue, 16 Jul 2013 02:06:53
>> +0100
>>
>> It seems it was already being phased out in d-i a few years before
>> that: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2010/20101030
>
> That is interesting. I distinctly remember the 'ReiserFS' filesystem
> option being present in the Wheezy d-i. The description went something
> like this: 'Journaling filesystem created by Hans Reiser' or something
> along those lines. Your research has revealed otherwise- but I have my
> suspicions. I'm sure I didn't make up that experience.
>
> Perhaps I somehow inadvertently customised my copy of d-i or did an
> advanced install or something, but I doubt it. I was even more inept a
> year ago than I am now.
>
> Why was Reiser3 phased out? It wasn't *grossly* unstable or anything,
> and despite lack of maintenance it was still a good little filesystem
> that could have stayed for longer.
>
> And why UFS? It may be obsolete, but I should think it would be
> relatively stable. Surely a filesystem should only be removed when it
> is actually a steaming wreck,

"not just when the devs don't like it anymore."

You just hit the nail on the head ;-)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWM_CVsUAAAqFSX.png:large

Seems only large organizations have the financial resources to
whitewash their monstrous past and have their code accepted. For an
unfortunate individual like Reiser, well, tough luck -- as FOSS' often
touted technical meritocracy of code selection process is simply
trumped over by a selective 'morality', selective 'altruism', and/or
'religious' (or X) other sort of *unspoken* agreement/fanaticism by
upstream maintainers (gate keepers?).
http://marc.info/?l=reiserfs-devel&m=144979771308703&w=2

Oh, yes, the 'extra cherry on top' by someone 'commenting' at the end
-- throwing extra dirt -- dissing the individual and/or his work/code.
That's the pattern I have observed.


Best Professional Regards.

-- 
Jose R R
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-12  8:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-06 10:19 Reiser4-enabled Debian Unstable (Sid) netboot iso Jose R R
2016-01-06 12:21 ` dimas
2016-01-06 13:42   ` Jose R R
2016-01-06 15:20     ` dimas
2016-01-08  9:38       ` Jose R R
2016-01-07  8:11 ` Jose R R
2016-01-08 18:32   ` dimas
2016-01-09  3:07     ` Jose R R
     [not found]   ` <20160111084732.48bf9447@multivac.localdomain>
     [not found]     ` <20160111062221.GC23329@mraw.org>
     [not found]       ` <20160111190158.58dc383f@multivac.localdomain>
2016-01-12  8:34         ` Jose R R [this message]
2016-01-11 10:28 ` Jose R R
2016-01-11 10:39 ` Jose R R
2016-01-11 10:52 ` Jose R R
2016-01-11 11:42 ` Jose R R
     [not found]   ` <CAM12Q5Tj3xgN5izBa0jA8Mn1Mu7-RqRKTmStoNUfmJNtb=EtNA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-11 11:46     ` Fwd: " Jose R R

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