From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jose R R Subject: Re: Reiser4-enabled Debian Unstable (Sid) netboot iso Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 00:34:25 -0800 Message-ID: References: <20160111084732.48bf9447@multivac.localdomain> <20160111062221.GC23329@mraw.org> <20160111190158.58dc383f@multivac.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Return-path: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=metztli-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qj/uSrPHjKd7blwNBeRFBGSNvvxht/8z+YMzq/tdGU0=; b=pem9KIZpxWww24x1lRcLzDWu1h8qIiGg3wmUDH4//gBPEgx+YyDgGDwJCglhcne6t0 MUgSZh2rYtcvk9oGT7VuzWSRXtrl0TU5qml94mmPTgwQl19bphVHtStgywRrcnMB84kp YQPkKBCEH/BI0wM4AUBnkO43IyFnk98Woh0iqwp3uVMFz73VWtZfFjXT3pibWI5nXbC2 MKEQBKTE3cJt02DJYB5h0RYqXtuAVzU5j+voV6WLU+ieUJusdXJhFof8GU0AdzqwBWLq tClilbLLTKNkf+hxW5MJHqwl0S7sYhDxmQ3qKJwhkS0FlCQylEEYh0Vhx/CGLd+FjBdu OPzg== In-Reply-To: <20160111190158.58dc383f@multivac.localdomain> Sender: reiserfs-devel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" To: Adam Wilson Cc: debian-boot@lists.debian.org, ReiserFS Development List On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 8:01 AM, Adam Wilson wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:22:21 +0100 > Cyril Brulebois wrote: > >> Adam Wilson (2016-01-11): >> > This is somewhat off-topic, but why was ReiserFS support removed >> > from d-i? I am a big fan of Reiser3 personally, but I use XFS now. >> >> In linux's changelog: >> | linux (3.10.1-1) unstable; urgency=3Dlow >> | [=E2=80=A6] >> | * udeb: Remove obsolete and unsupported drivers and filesystems >> | - Remove ppa from scsi-modules >> | - Remove floppy-modules, irda-modules, parport-modules, >> plip-modules, | qnx4-modules, reiserfs-modules, ufs-modules >> | [=E2=80=A6] >> | -- Ben Hutchings Tue, 16 Jul 2013 02:06:53 >> +0100 >> >> It seems it was already being phased out in d-i a few years before >> that: https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2010/201010= 30 > > That is interesting. I distinctly remember the 'ReiserFS' filesystem > option being present in the Wheezy d-i. The description went somethin= g > like this: 'Journaling filesystem created by Hans Reiser' or somethin= g > along those lines. Your research has revealed otherwise- but I have m= y > suspicions. I'm sure I didn't make up that experience. > > Perhaps I somehow inadvertently customised my copy of d-i or did an > advanced install or something, but I doubt it. I was even more inept = a > year ago than I am now. > > Why was Reiser3 phased out? It wasn't *grossly* unstable or anything, > and despite lack of maintenance it was still a good little filesystem > that could have stayed for longer. > > And why UFS? It may be obsolete, but I should think it would be > relatively stable. Surely a filesystem should only be removed when it > is actually a steaming wreck, "not just when the devs don't like it anymore." You just hit the nail on the head ;-) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWM_CVsUAAAqFSX.png:large Seems only large organizations have the financial resources to whitewash their monstrous past and have their code accepted. For an unfortunate individual like Reiser, well, tough luck -- as FOSS' often touted technical meritocracy of code selection process is simply trumped over by a selective 'morality', selective 'altruism', and/or 'religious' (or X) other sort of *unspoken* agreement/fanaticism by upstream maintainers (gate keepers?). http://marc.info/?l=3Dreiserfs-devel&m=3D144979771308703&w=3D2 Oh, yes, the 'extra cherry on top' by someone 'commenting' at the end -- throwing extra dirt -- dissing the individual and/or his work/code. That's the pattern I have observed. Best Professional Regards. --=20 Jose R R http://metztli.it -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------- Try at no charge http://b2evolution.net for http://OpenShift.com PaaS -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------- from our GitHub http://Nepohualtzintzin.com repository. Cloud the easy = way! -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe reiserfs-deve= l" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html