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From: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@redhat.com>,
	airlied@redhat.com, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
	"Aakash Sen Sharma" <aakashsensharma@gmail.com>,
	"Valentin Obst" <kernel@valentinobst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] rust: Introduce irq module
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 15:38:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1bcae676ec4751ae137782c4ced8aad505ec1bb9.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zrzq8su-LhUIoavm@boqun-archlinux>

On Wed, 2024-08-14 at 10:35 -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 08:10:00PM -0400, Lyude Paul wrote:
> [...]
> > +/// Run the closure `cb` with interrupts disabled on the local CPU.
> > +///
> > +/// This creates an [`IrqDisabled`] token, which can be passed to functions that must be run
> > +/// without interrupts.
> > +///
> > +/// # Examples 
> > +///
> > +/// Using [`with_irqs_disabled`] to call a function that can only be called with interrupts
> > +/// disabled:
> > +///
> > +/// ```
> > +/// use kernel::irq::{IrqDisabled, with_irqs_disabled};
> > +///
> > +/// // Requiring interrupts be disabled to call a function
> > +/// fn dont_interrupt_me(_irq: IrqDisabled<'_>) {
> > +///     /* When this token is available, IRQs are known to be disabled. Actions that rely on this
> > +///      * can be safely performed
> > +///      */
> > +/// }
> > +///
> > +/// // Disabling interrupts. They'll be re-enabled once this closure completes.
> > +/// with_irqs_disabled(|irq| dont_interrupt_me(irq));
> > +/// ```
> > +#[inline]
> > +pub fn with_irqs_disabled<T>(cb: impl for<'a> FnOnce(IrqDisabled<'a>) -> T) -> T {
> 
> Given the current signature, can `cb` return with interrupts enabled (if
> it re-enables interrupt itself)? For example:
> 
> 	with_irqs_disabled(|irq_disabled| {
> 
> 	    // maybe a unsafe function.
> 	    reenable_irq(irq_disabled);

JFYI: this wouldn't be unsafe, it would be broken code in all circumstances
Simply put: `with_irqs_disabled()` does not provide the guarantee that
interrupts were enabled previously, only that they're disabled now. And it is
never a sound operation in C or Rust to ever enable interrupts without a
matching disable in the same scope because that immediately risks a deadlock
or other undefined behavior. There's no usecase for this, I'd consider any
kind of function that returns with a different interrupt state then it had
upon being called to simply be broken.

Also - like we previously mentioned, `IrqDisabled` is just a marker type. It
doesn't enable or disable anything itself, the most it does is run a debug
assertion to ensure interrupts are disabled upon creation. So dropping it
doesn't change interrupt state. I think this actually does make sense
semantically: even if IrqDisabled wasn't a no-op in a world where we could
somehow implement that without running into the drop order issue - there still
would not be a guarantee that dropping `IrqDisabled` would enable interrupts
simply because it could be a nested disable. And there's no way we could make
interrupt enabled sections explicit without either klint, or carrying around a
`IrqEnabled` (which we would have to do for every function that could sleep,
so I don't think that's ideal). So without a token like this all code can do
is assume it doesn't know the interrupt state, and rely on solutions like
lockdep to complain if code within an interrupt context tries to perform an
operation that would be unsound there like sleeping.

This being said - I would be totally alright with us making it so that we
assert that interrupts are still disabled upon dropping the token. But
interrupts have to disabled throughout the entire closure regardless of the
presence of IrqDisabled. The same rules apply to C code using
local_irq_save()/local_irq_restore() - between those two function calls, it is
always a bug to re-enable interrupts even if they get turned back off. Unsafe
functions are no exceptions, nor are C bindings, and should simply be
considered broken (not unsafe) if they violate this. I suppose that's
something else we could document if people think it's necessary.


> 	})
> 
> note that `cb` is a `-> T` function, other than `-> (IrqDisabled<'a>,
> T)`, so semantically, it doesn't require IRQ still disabled after
> return.

This was the reason I originally had us pass IrqDisabled as a reference and
not a value - specifically since it seemed to make more sense to treat
IrqDisabled as an object which exists throughout the lifetime of the closure
regardless of whether we drop our reference to it or not - since it's a no-op.

We could require the user return it in the callback and simply not return it
from the actual `with_irqs_disabled` function - though I am concerned that
would give people the impression that the IRQ disable lifetime follows the
token - as opposed to the token simply being a guarantee to a condition that
might hold true even without its presence. That's up to y'all though.

> 
> Regards,
> Boqun
> 
> > +    // SAFETY: FFI call with no special requirements
> > +    let flags = unsafe { bindings::local_irq_save() };
> > +
> > +    let ret = cb(IrqDisabled(PhantomData));
> > +
> > +    // SAFETY: `flags` comes from our previous call to local_irq_save
> > +    unsafe { bindings::local_irq_restore(flags) };
> > +
> > +    ret
> > +}
> > diff --git a/rust/kernel/lib.rs b/rust/kernel/lib.rs
> > index 274bdc1b0a824..ead3a7ca5ba11 100644
> > --- a/rust/kernel/lib.rs
> > +++ b/rust/kernel/lib.rs
> > @@ -36,6 +36,7 @@
> >  pub mod firmware;
> >  pub mod init;
> >  pub mod ioctl;
> > +pub mod irq;
> >  #[cfg(CONFIG_KUNIT)]
> >  pub mod kunit;
> >  #[cfg(CONFIG_NET)]
> > -- 
> > 2.45.2
> > 
> > 
> 

-- 
Cheers,
 Lyude Paul (she/her)
 Software Engineer at Red Hat

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-14 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-02  0:09 [PATCH v3 0/3] rust: Add irq abstraction, SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul
2024-08-02  0:10 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] rust: Introduce irq module Lyude Paul
2024-08-14 17:10   ` Boqun Feng
2024-08-14 17:35   ` Boqun Feng
2024-08-14 19:38     ` Lyude Paul [this message]
2024-08-14 20:17       ` Boqun Feng
2024-08-14 20:44         ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-14 20:57           ` Boqun Feng
2024-08-15  4:53             ` Boqun Feng
2024-08-15  6:40               ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-15 16:02                 ` Boqun Feng
2024-08-15 21:05                   ` Lyude Paul
2024-08-15 21:31                     ` Lyude Paul
2024-08-15 21:46                       ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-15 22:13                         ` Lyude Paul
2024-08-16 15:28                           ` Boqun Feng
2024-08-15 21:41                     ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-15 21:43                       ` Lyude Paul
2024-08-15 20:31         ` Lyude Paul
2024-08-15 21:48           ` Benno Lossin
2024-08-26 11:21   ` Dirk Behme
2024-08-26 14:21     ` Boqun Feng
2024-08-26 14:59       ` Dirk Behme
2024-08-26 15:34         ` Boqun Feng
2024-08-02  0:10 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] rust: sync: Introduce lock::Backend::Context Lyude Paul
2024-08-20 10:26   ` Dirk Behme
2024-08-02  0:10 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] rust: sync: Add SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul
2024-08-13 20:26 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] rust: Add irq abstraction, SpinLockIrq Lyude Paul

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