From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: a.hindborg@samsung.com, alex.gaynor@gmail.com, arve@android.com,
benno.lossin@proton.me, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
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surenb@google.com, tglx@linutronix.de, tkjos@android.com,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, wedsonaf@gmail.com, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] rust: file: add `FileDescriptorReservation`
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 11:51:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231130-windungen-flogen-7b92c4013b82@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231130091756.109655-1-aliceryhl@google.com>
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 09:17:56AM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> writes:
> >>>> + /// Prevent values of this type from being moved to a different task.
> >>>> + ///
> >>>> + /// This is necessary because the C FFI calls assume that `current` is set to the task that
> >>>> + /// owns the fd in question.
> >>>> + _not_send_sync: PhantomData<*mut ()>,
> >>>
> >>> I don't fully understand this. Can you explain in a little more detail
> >>> what you mean by this and how this works?
> >>
> >> Yeah, so, this has to do with the Rust trait `Send` that controls
> >> whether it's okay for a value to get moved from one thread to another.
> >> In this case, we don't want it to be `Send` so that it can't be moved to
> >> another thread, since current might be different there.
> >>
> >> The `Send` trait is automatically applied to structs whenever *all*
> >> fields of the struct are `Send`. So to ensure that a struct is not
> >> `Send`, you add a field that is not `Send`.
> >>
> >> The `PhantomData` type used here is a special zero-sized type.
> >> Basically, it says "pretend this struct has a field of type `*mut ()`,
> >> but don't actually add the field". So for the purposes of `Send`, it has
> >> a non-Send field, but since its wrapped in `PhantomData`, the field is
> >> not there at runtime.
> >
> > This probably a stupid suggestion, question. But while PhantomData gives
> > the right hint of what is happening I wouldn't mind if that was very
> > explicitly called NoSendTrait or just add the explanatory comment. Yes,
> > that's a lot of verbiage but you'd help us a lot.
>
> I suppose we could add a typedef:
>
> type NoSendTrait = PhantomData<*mut ()>;
>
> and use that as the field type. The way I did it here is the "standard"
> way of doing it, and if you look at code outside the kernel, you will
> also find them using `PhantomData` like this. However, I don't mind
> adding the typedef if you think it is helpful.
I'm fine with just a comment as well. I just need to be able to read
this a bit faster. I'm basically losing half a day just dealing with
this patchset and that's not realistic if I want to keep up with other
patches that get sent.
And if you resend and someone else review you might have to answer the
same question again.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-30 10:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-29 12:51 [PATCH 0/7] File abstractions needed by Rust Binder Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 12:51 ` [PATCH 1/7] rust: file: add Rust abstraction for `struct file` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 15:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-11-29 15:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-29 17:08 ` Boqun Feng
2023-11-30 10:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-30 15:25 ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01 8:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01 9:19 ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01 9:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01 10:36 ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-01 9:52 ` Boqun Feng
2023-11-29 16:42 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 16:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-30 15:02 ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 17:06 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 21:27 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 23:17 ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-30 10:48 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 12:10 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 12:36 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 14:53 ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-30 14:59 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-30 15:46 ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-30 15:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-30 15:58 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-30 16:12 ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 1:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-12-01 12:11 ` David Laight
2023-12-01 12:27 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-01 15:04 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-12-01 15:14 ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 17:25 ` David Laight
2023-12-01 17:37 ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 12:51 ` [PATCH 2/7] rust: cred: add Rust abstraction for `struct cred` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 16:17 ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 9:06 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-01 10:27 ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-04 15:42 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 13:11 ` [PATCH 3/7] rust: security: add abstraction for secctx Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 16:26 ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 10:48 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-02 10:03 ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 13:11 ` [PATCH 4/7] rust: file: add `FileDescriptorReservation` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 16:14 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 16:55 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 17:14 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 9:12 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 9:23 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 9:09 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 9:17 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 10:51 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2023-11-30 11:54 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 12:17 ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-30 12:33 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 16:40 ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 11:32 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 13:12 ` [PATCH 5/7] rust: file: add `Kuid` wrapper Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 16:28 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 16:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-11-30 12:46 ` Christian Brauner
2023-12-06 19:59 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-08 16:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-08 19:58 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-08 5:28 ` comex
2023-12-08 16:19 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-12-08 17:08 ` Nick Desaulniers
2023-12-08 17:37 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-12-08 17:43 ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-08 20:43 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-12-09 7:24 ` comex
2023-11-30 9:36 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 10:52 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-30 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-12-06 20:02 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-07 7:18 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-12-07 7:46 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-11-30 16:48 ` Benno Lossin
2023-11-29 13:12 ` [PATCH 6/7] rust: file: add `DeferredFdCloser` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 17:12 ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 11:35 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-02 10:16 ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-05 14:43 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-12-05 18:16 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-29 13:12 ` [PATCH 7/7] rust: file: add abstraction for `poll_table` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 17:42 ` Benno Lossin
2023-12-01 11:47 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 22:39 ` Boqun Feng
2023-12-01 11:50 ` Alice Ryhl
2023-11-30 22:50 ` Boqun Feng
2023-11-29 16:31 ` [PATCH 0/7] File abstractions needed by Rust Binder Christian Brauner
2023-11-29 16:48 ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-12-06 20:05 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-12-08 16:59 ` Miguel Ojeda
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