From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org>, John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
Alex Gaynor <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
Wedson Almeida Filho <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>,
bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com, Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>,
rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, justinstitt@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] rust: time: Use wrapping_sub() for Ktime::sub()
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 16:37:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <202404231630.20B2693D@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zigj-lY5lnBSKuib@boqun-archlinux>
On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 02:11:22PM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 04:08:01PM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > Currently since Rust code is compiled with "-Coverflow-checks=y", so a
> > normal substraction may be compiled as an overflow checking and panic
> > if overflow happens:
> >
> > subq %rsi, %rdi
> > jo .LBB0_2
> > movq %rdi, %rax
> > retq
> > .LBB0_2:
> > pushq %rax
> > leaq str.0(%rip), %rdi
> > leaq .L__unnamed_1(%rip), %rdx
> > movl $33, %esi
> > callq *core::panicking::panic::h59297120e85ea178@GOTPCREL(%rip)
> >
> > although overflow detection is nice to have, however this makes
> > `Ktime::sub()` behave differently than `ktime_sub()`, moreover it's not
> > clear that the overflow checking is helpful, since for example, the
> > current binder usage[1] doesn't have the checking.
> >
>
> Ping. Thomas, John and Stepthen. Could you take a look at this, and the
> discussion between Miguel and me? The key question is the behavior when
> ktime_sub() hits a overflow, I think. Thanks!
>
> (Cc Kees as well)
While working on the signed (and unsigned) integer overflow sanitizer
support on the C side for the kernel, I've also run into timekeeping
being a questionable area[1]. I *think* from what I can tell, it's always
expected to have wrapping behavior.
Can we define the type itself to be wrapping? (This has been my plan on
the C side, but we're still waiting on a finalized implementation of the
"wraps" attribute.[2])
-Kees
[1] This is strictly WIP, as I think fixing the _types_ is going to be
the more sustainable solution, but you can see some of what I was
poking at:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/kees/linux.git/commit/?h=devel/overflow/enable-unsigned-sanitizer&id=284464817a59b14f00d397bfbf1bf05683ed2f58
[2] https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/86618
--
Kees Cook
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-04-23 23:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-04-11 23:07 [PATCH 0/2] rust: time related cleanup Boqun Feng
2024-04-11 23:08 ` [PATCH 1/2] rust: time: doc: Add missing C header links Boqun Feng
2024-04-12 7:15 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-04-12 11:04 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-04-11 23:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] rust: time: Use wrapping_sub() for Ktime::sub() Boqun Feng
2024-04-12 7:14 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-04-12 7:43 ` Philipp Stanner
2024-04-12 7:58 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-04-15 17:08 ` Kees Cook
2024-04-12 13:34 ` Boqun Feng
2024-04-12 14:41 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-04-13 1:30 ` Boqun Feng
2024-04-13 2:16 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-04-12 8:36 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-04-12 13:18 ` Boqun Feng
2024-04-12 13:51 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-04-25 9:00 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-04-25 14:28 ` Boqun Feng
2024-04-23 21:11 ` Boqun Feng
2024-04-23 23:37 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2024-04-24 10:21 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-05-09 12:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-05-13 14:06 ` Boqun Feng
2024-05-13 15:04 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-05-14 13:12 ` Boqun Feng
2024-05-14 14:21 ` Miguel Ojeda
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