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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>
Cc: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	rafael@kernel.org, mcgrof@kernel.org, russell.h.weight@intel.com,
	ojeda@kernel.org, alex.gaynor@gmail.com, wedsonaf@gmail.com,
	gary@garyguo.net, bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com,
	benno.lossin@proton.me, a.hindborg@samsung.com,
	aliceryhl@google.com, airlied@gmail.com,
	fujita.tomonori@gmail.com, pstanner@redhat.com,
	ajanulgu@redhat.com, lyude@redhat.com,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: add abstraction for struct device
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 17:02:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2024061245-kangaroo-clothes-76e1@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d74edb73-1dba-43f4-a50c-36354c39d758@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 04:51:42PM +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On 6/11/24 18:13, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 03:29:22PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 03:21:31PM +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> > > > ...hence, I agree we should indeed add to the #Invariants and #Safety section
> > > > that `->release` must be callable  from any thread.
> > > > 
> > > > However, this is just theory, do we actually have cases where `device::release`
> > 
> > @Danilo, right, it's only theorical, but it's good to call it out since
> > it's the requirement for a safe Rust abstraction.
> 
> Similar to my previous reply, if we want to call this out as safety requirement
> in `Device::from_raw`, we probably want to add it to the documentation of the C
> `struct device`, such that we can argue that this is an invariant of C's
> `struct device`.
> 
> Otherwise we'd have to write something like:
> 
> "It must also be ensured that the `->release` function of a `struct device` can
> be called from any non-atomic context. While not being officially documented this
> is guaranteed by the invariant of `struct device`."

In the 20+ years of the driver model being part of the kernel, I don't
think this has come up yet, so maybe you can call the release function
in irq context.  I don't know, I was just guessing :)

So let's not go adding constraints that we just do not have please.
Same goes for the C code, so the rust code is no different here.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-12 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-10 18:02 [PATCH v2 0/2] Rust abstractions for Device & Firmware Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-10 18:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] rust: add abstraction for struct device Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-10 18:38   ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-11 13:21     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-11 13:29       ` Greg KH
2024-06-11 16:13         ` Boqun Feng
2024-06-12 13:59           ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-12 14:51           ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-12 15:02             ` Greg KH [this message]
2024-06-12 15:35               ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-12 15:50                 ` Greg KH
2024-06-12 16:18                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-12 17:13                     ` Greg KH
2024-06-12 17:43                       ` Greg KH
2024-06-12 20:56                       ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-13  5:47                         ` Greg KH
2024-06-13 12:22                           ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-13 20:18                             ` Lyude Paul
2024-06-10 18:02 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] rust: add firmware abstractions Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-11  6:31   ` Greg KH
2024-06-11 13:34     ` Danilo Krummrich
2024-06-11 13:44       ` Greg KH

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