From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
"Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
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"Kees Cook" <kees@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 1/8] rust: types: add `NotThreadSafe`
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 08:59:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240925135904.GA654417@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLgggtjNAAotBzwRQ4RYQ9+WDom0MRyYFMnQ+E5UXgOc3RQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 01:06:10PM +0200, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:45 PM Serge E. Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 02:31:27PM +0000, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> > > This introduces a new marker type for types that shouldn't be thread
> > > safe. By adding a field of this type to a struct, it becomes non-Send
> > > and non-Sync, which means that it cannot be accessed in any way from
> > > threads other than the one it was created on.
> > >
> > > This is useful for APIs that require globals such as `current` to remain
> > > constant while the value exists.
> > >
> > > We update two existing users in the Kernel to use this helper:
> > >
> > > * `Task::current()` - moving the return type of this value to a
> > > different thread would not be safe as you can no longer be guaranteed
> > > that the `current` pointer remains valid.
> > > * Lock guards. Mutexes and spinlocks should be unlocked on the same
> > > thread as where they were locked, so we enforce this using the Send
> > > trait.
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > this sounds useful, however from kernel side when I think thread-safe,
> > I think must not be used across a sleep. Would something like ThreadLocked
> > or LockedToThread make sense?
>
> Hmm, those names seem pretty similar to the current name to me?
Seems very different to me:
If @foo is not threadsafe, it may be global or be usable by many
threads, but must be locked to one thread during access.
What you're describing here is (iiuc) that @foo must only be used
by one particular thread.
-serge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-25 13:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-15 14:31 [PATCH v10 0/8] File abstractions needed by Rust Binder Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 1/8] rust: types: add `NotThreadSafe` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 15:38 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-27 11:21 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-09-24 19:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2024-09-25 11:06 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-25 13:59 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2024-09-27 10:20 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 2/8] rust: task: add `Task::current_raw` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 3/8] rust: file: add Rust abstraction for `struct file` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 21:51 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 4/8] rust: cred: add Rust abstraction for `struct cred` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 20:24 ` Kees Cook
2024-09-15 20:55 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-19 7:57 ` Paul Moore
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 5/8] rust: security: add abstraction for secctx Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 20:58 ` Kees Cook
2024-09-15 21:07 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-16 15:40 ` Casey Schaufler
2024-09-17 13:18 ` Paul Moore
2024-09-22 15:01 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-22 15:08 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-22 16:50 ` Casey Schaufler
2024-09-22 17:04 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-19 7:56 ` Paul Moore
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 6/8] rust: file: add `FileDescriptorReservation` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 18:39 ` Al Viro
2024-09-15 19:34 ` Al Viro
2024-09-16 4:18 ` Al Viro
2024-09-15 20:13 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 22:01 ` Al Viro
2024-09-15 22:05 ` Al Viro
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 7/8] rust: file: add `Kuid` wrapper Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 22:02 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-23 9:13 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-26 16:33 ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-26 16:35 ` [PATCH] [RFC] rust: add PidNamespace wrapper Christian Brauner
2024-09-27 12:04 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-27 14:21 ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-27 14:58 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-01 9:43 ` [PATCH v2] rust: add PidNamespace Christian Brauner
2024-10-01 10:26 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-01 14:17 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-01 15:45 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-02 10:14 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-02 11:08 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-01 19:10 ` Gary Guo
2024-10-02 11:05 ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 8/8] rust: file: add abstraction for `poll_table` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 22:24 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-23 9:10 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-27 9:28 ` [PATCH v10 0/8] File abstractions needed by Rust Binder Christian Brauner
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