From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
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Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] rust: add PidNamespace wrapper
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 16:21:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240927-anreden-unwirklich-c98c1d9ac3a5@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLghUj3-8eZMOVhhk0c9x29B7uMj=9dHWsRJYC1ghxqUdxg@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 02:04:13PM GMT, Alice Ryhl wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 6:36 PM Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, so here's my feeble attempt at getting something going for wrapping
> > struct pid_namespace as struct pid_namespace indirectly came up in the
> > file abstraction thread.
>
> This looks great!
Thanks!
>
> > The lifetime of a pid namespace is intimately tied to the lifetime of
> > task. The pid namespace of a task doesn't ever change. A
> > unshare(CLONE_NEWPID) or setns(fd_pidns/pidfd, CLONE_NEWPID) will not
> > change the task's pid namespace only the pid namespace of children
> > spawned by the task. This invariant is important to keep in mind.
> >
> > After a task is reaped it will be detached from its associated struct
> > pids via __unhash_process(). This will also set task->thread_pid to
> > NULL.
> >
> > In order to retrieve the pid namespace of a task task_active_pid_ns()
> > can be used. The helper works on both current and non-current taks but
> > the requirements are slightly different in both cases and it depends on
> > where the helper is called.
> >
> > The rules for this are simple but difficult for me to translate into
> > Rust. If task_active_pid_ns() is called on current then no RCU locking
> > is needed as current is obviously alive. On the other hand calling
> > task_active_pid_ns() after release_task() would work but it would mean
> > task_active_pid_ns() will return NULL.
> >
> > Calling task_active_pid_ns() on a non-current task, while valid, must be
> > under RCU or other protection mechanism as the task might be
> > release_task() and thus in __unhash_process().
>
> Just to confirm, calling task_active_pid_ns() on a non-current task
> requires the rcu lock even if you own a refcont on the task?
Interesting question. Afaik, yes. task_active_pid_ns() goes via
task->thread_pid which is a shorthand for task->pid_links[PIDTYPE_PID].
This will be NULLed when the task exits and is dead (so usually when
someone has waited on it - ignoring ptrace for sanity reasons and
autoreaping the latter amounts to the same thing just in-kernel):
T1 T2 T3
exit(0);
wait(T1)
-> wait_task_zombie()
-> release_task()
-> __exit_signals()
-> __unash_process()
// sets task->thread_pid == NULL task_active_pid_ns(T1)
// task->pid_links[PIDTYPE_PID] == NULL
So having a reference to struct task_struct doesn't prevent
task->thread_pid becoming NULL.
And you touch upon a very interesting point. The lifetime of struct
pid_namespace is actually tied to struct pid much tighter than it is to
struct task_struct. So when a task is released (transitions from zombie
to dead in the common case) the following happens:
release_task()
-> __exit_signals()
-> thread_pid = get_pid(task->thread_pid)
-> __unhash_process()
-> detach_pid(PIDTYPE_PID)
-> __change_pid()
{
task->thread_pid = NULL;
task->pid_links[PIDTYPE_PID] = NULL;
free_pid(thread_pid)
}
put_pid(thread_pid)
And the free_pid() in __change_pid() does a delayed_put_pid() via
call_rcu().
So afaiu, taking the rcu_read_lock() synchronizes against that
delayed_put_pid() in __change_pid() so the call_rcu() will wait until
everyone who does
rcu_read_lock()
task_active_pid_ns(task)
rcu_read_unlock()
and sees task->thread_pid non-NULL, is done. This way no additional
reference count on struct task_struct or struct pid is needed before
plucking the pid namespace from there. Does that make sense or have I
gotten it all wrong?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-27 14:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-15 14:31 [PATCH v10 0/8] File abstractions needed by Rust Binder Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 1/8] rust: types: add `NotThreadSafe` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 15:38 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-27 11:21 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-09-24 19:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2024-09-25 11:06 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-25 13:59 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2024-09-27 10:20 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 2/8] rust: task: add `Task::current_raw` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 3/8] rust: file: add Rust abstraction for `struct file` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 21:51 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 4/8] rust: cred: add Rust abstraction for `struct cred` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 20:24 ` Kees Cook
2024-09-15 20:55 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-19 7:57 ` Paul Moore
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 5/8] rust: security: add abstraction for secctx Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 20:58 ` Kees Cook
2024-09-15 21:07 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-16 15:40 ` Casey Schaufler
2024-09-17 13:18 ` Paul Moore
2024-09-22 15:01 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-22 15:08 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-22 16:50 ` Casey Schaufler
2024-09-22 17:04 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-19 7:56 ` Paul Moore
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 6/8] rust: file: add `FileDescriptorReservation` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 18:39 ` Al Viro
2024-09-15 19:34 ` Al Viro
2024-09-16 4:18 ` Al Viro
2024-09-15 20:13 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 22:01 ` Al Viro
2024-09-15 22:05 ` Al Viro
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 7/8] rust: file: add `Kuid` wrapper Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 22:02 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-23 9:13 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-26 16:33 ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-26 16:35 ` [PATCH] [RFC] rust: add PidNamespace wrapper Christian Brauner
2024-09-27 12:04 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-27 14:21 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2024-09-27 14:58 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-01 9:43 ` [PATCH v2] rust: add PidNamespace Christian Brauner
2024-10-01 10:26 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-01 14:17 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-01 15:45 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-02 10:14 ` Christian Brauner
2024-10-02 11:08 ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-10-01 19:10 ` Gary Guo
2024-10-02 11:05 ` Christian Brauner
2024-09-15 14:31 ` [PATCH v10 8/8] rust: file: add abstraction for `poll_table` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-15 22:24 ` Gary Guo
2024-09-23 9:10 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-27 9:28 ` [PATCH v10 0/8] File abstractions needed by Rust Binder Christian Brauner
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