From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
rust-for-linux <rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: Rust kernel policy
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:07:40 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250219160740.52ad61d4@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <97841173-1de8-4221-8bf3-3470a5ac98a7@acm.org>
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:52:14 -0800
Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org> wrote:
> On 2/19/25 12:46 PM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > I do feel that new drivers written in Rust would help with the
> > vulnerabilities that new drivers usually add to the kernel.
>
> For driver developers it is easier to learn C than to learn Rust. I'm
> not sure that all driver developers, especially the "drive by"
> developers, have the skills to learn Rust.
That's a short term problem.
But it's not like we are going to ban C from all new drivers. But as Rust
becomes more popular, we should at the very least make it easy to support
Rust drivers.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-19 21:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-09 20:56 Rust kernel policy Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-18 16:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-18 16:35 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-18 16:39 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-18 18:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-18 21:22 ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-19 6:20 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-19 6:35 ` Dave Airlie
2025-02-19 11:37 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-19 13:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-02-19 13:40 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-19 7:05 ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-19 11:32 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-18 17:36 ` Jiri Kosina
2025-02-20 6:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-20 18:40 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-02-18 18:46 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-18 21:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-18 22:38 ` Dave Airlie
2025-02-18 22:54 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-19 0:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-19 3:04 ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-19 5:07 ` NeilBrown
2025-02-19 5:39 ` Greg KH
2025-02-19 15:05 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-02-20 20:49 ` Lyude Paul
2025-02-21 19:24 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-02-20 7:03 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-20 7:10 ` Greg KH
2025-02-20 8:57 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-20 13:46 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-02-20 14:09 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-20 14:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-20 15:25 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-02-20 15:49 ` Willy Tarreau
2025-02-22 15:30 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-02-20 14:53 ` Greg KH
2025-02-20 15:40 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-21 0:46 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-21 9:48 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-02-21 16:28 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-21 17:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-21 18:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-21 18:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-21 18:31 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-21 19:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-21 19:59 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-21 20:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-22 7:20 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-21 22:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-21 23:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-22 17:53 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-02-22 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-23 16:42 ` David Laight
2025-02-22 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-22 9:45 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-02-22 10:25 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-22 11:07 ` Greg KH
2025-02-21 18:23 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-21 22:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-03-01 13:22 ` Askar Safin
2025-03-01 13:55 ` Martin Uecker
2025-03-02 6:50 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-21 18:11 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-02-24 8:12 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-02-20 22:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-02-22 23:42 ` Piotr Masłowski
2025-02-23 8:10 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-23 23:31 ` comex
2025-02-24 9:08 ` Ventura Jack
2025-02-24 18:03 ` Martin Uecker
2025-02-20 12:28 ` Jan Engelhardt
2025-02-20 12:37 ` Greg KH
2025-02-20 13:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-20 13:51 ` Willy Tarreau
2025-02-20 15:17 ` C aggregate passing (Rust kernel policy) Jan Engelhardt
2025-02-20 16:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-20 20:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-21 8:31 ` HUANG Zhaobin
2025-02-21 18:34 ` David Laight
2025-02-21 19:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-21 20:07 ` comex
2025-02-21 21:45 ` David Laight
2025-02-22 6:32 ` Willy Tarreau
2025-02-22 6:37 ` Willy Tarreau
2025-02-22 8:41 ` David Laight
2025-02-22 9:11 ` Willy Tarreau
2025-02-21 20:06 ` Jan Engelhardt
2025-02-21 20:23 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-02-21 20:24 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-02-21 22:02 ` David Laight
2025-02-21 22:13 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-02-22 5:56 ` comex
2025-02-21 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-20 22:13 ` Rust kernel policy Paul E. McKenney
2025-02-21 5:19 ` Felipe Contreras
2025-02-21 5:36 ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-21 5:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2025-02-21 7:04 ` Dave Airlie
2025-02-24 20:27 ` Felipe Contreras
2025-02-24 20:37 ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-26 2:42 ` Felipe Contreras
2025-02-22 16:04 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-02-22 17:10 ` Ventura Jack
2025-02-22 17:34 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-02-23 2:08 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-02-19 5:53 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-02-19 5:59 ` Dave Airlie
2025-02-22 18:46 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-02-19 12:37 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-20 11:26 ` Askar Safin
2025-02-20 12:33 ` vpotach
2025-02-19 18:52 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-19 19:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 19:17 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-19 20:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-19 20:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 20:52 ` Bart Van Assche
2025-02-19 21:07 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2025-02-20 16:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-20 8:13 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-20 8:16 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-20 11:57 ` Fiona Behrens
2025-02-20 14:07 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-21 10:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-22 12:10 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-03-04 11:17 ` Fiona Behrens
2025-03-04 17:48 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-20 9:55 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-02-19 19:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-20 6:32 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-02-20 6:53 ` Greg KH
2025-02-20 8:44 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-02-20 13:53 ` Willy Tarreau
2025-02-20 16:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-20 12:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-20 12:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-02-20 23:42 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-22 15:21 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-02-20 6:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-20 23:44 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-21 15:24 ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-22 12:10 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-26 13:17 ` Fiona Behrens
2025-02-21 0:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-21 12:16 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-21 15:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-23 18:03 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-02-23 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-26 16:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-26 19:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-19 8:05 ` Dan Carpenter
2025-02-19 14:14 ` James Bottomley
2025-02-19 14:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-02-19 14:46 ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-02-19 14:51 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2025-02-19 15:15 ` James Bottomley
2025-02-19 15:33 ` Willy Tarreau
2025-02-19 15:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-02-19 15:46 ` James Bottomley
2025-02-19 15:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2025-02-19 16:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-02-19 16:15 ` Willy Tarreau
2025-02-19 16:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-02-19 16:34 ` Willy Tarreau
2025-02-19 16:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 16:47 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-02-19 18:22 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-02-20 6:26 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-02-20 15:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 17:00 ` Martin K. Petersen
2025-02-19 15:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 14:05 ` James Bottomley
2025-02-19 15:08 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-19 16:03 ` James Bottomley
2025-02-19 16:44 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-19 17:06 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-02-20 23:40 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-22 15:03 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-02-20 16:03 ` James Bottomley
2025-02-20 23:47 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-20 6:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-20 12:56 ` James Bottomley
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